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CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail<
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You want a Maxtor DiamondMax 10 hard drive 300GB instead of a raptor.<
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Frankly, for 2 drives with such similar performance and the same price i'd get the one with 4x more storage space. Back in action baby! EQ - Finlainea - Paladin - Stromm - Fallen LegacyRetired - EQ2 - Finlainea - Dirge - Najena <i>Edited by: Finlainea at: 6/28/05 4:47 am<
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What do you need the computer for? Gaming, dvd encoding, work, etc.<
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Do you have any interest in overclocking? Can save you tons of money for a bit of work by running parts faster than intended. Safe if done properly, but not recommended if you don't like messing with BIOS for quite a few hours to get things working just right.<
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I plan on using it for gaming/video editing. I plan to overclock a little but im no overclock buff. Just a few tweaks here and there. As far as case/PSU i thought the aspire case with 420w PS would work (bottom link) http://pub99.ezboard.com/bairsoftstop<i></i>

The PSU is utter garbage. Everything else is okay. Prophion<
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When do you plan to buy it? The new AMD procs come out like next week and I would wait to see how that affects prices if you can. <i></i>

If you plan to overclock at all, get a Venice 3200+. Multiplier is 10, so you can run it up to 3 GHz with the right cooling if you get a lucky chip. Even with stock cooling people tend to get 2.3 GHz or more, putting it awfully close to the chip you linked, but 300 dollars cheaper.<
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I see a nice AMD64 on there, but no mention of OEM WinXP 64-bit.<
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Yep, it costs just about 50% more then the MSI board. However, the DFI board is "the mother-fucking heat", as one would say. Just about every single imaginable setting you could possibly want to change is readily available in the BIOS. Not to mention DFI's support is, imo, better then any other MB manufacturer out there. Peruse the boards over at dfi-street.com, and almost every one of those confusing motherboard settings I mentioned you could change is pretty well explained. It's worth every penny to go with this board over all others.<
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Then, with the money you save, pick up the DFI board and some better RAM, something like Mushkin's Redline XP4000 would go well with the DFI board, since it lets you use up to 4v on the vDIMM with a simple jumper switch (Mushkin Redline will get down on its knees and suck your dick 3.5v). Decent aftermarket CPU cooling, XP-90 is some of the best air cooling you'll get.<
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It sounds like you're at least comfortable with the prospect of fiddling with your BIOS. If you go the way I suggested, you'll need to read a little bit more into the finer arts of overclocking (though nothing too extreme - no modifications, just getting familiar with settings and stability testing).<
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Get the XP120 over the XP90 for high end air cooling.<
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Quote:Frankly, for 2 drives with such similar performance and the same price i'd get the one with 4x more storage space. I'd get the one that isn't gonna head-crash in one year. Maxtor's reliability sucks balls, and Western Digital's doesn't. Tranthas Stormwalker<
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Quote:I'd get the one that isn't gonna head-crash in one year. Maxtor's reliability sucks balls, and Western Digital's doesn't.<
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Only reason I didn't recommend the 120 with the DFI MoBo was that it hangs over the memory kinda oddly. Won't fit if you get too tall of DIMMS (though not many are tall enough to block it), and if you have to move/change memory it requires you remounting the heatsink. Though, yeah, it is better then the 90 in termsof cooling. <
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So Arris, your OCing opinion has caught my eye.. ABout the DFI does it have "presets" so to speak that i can just choose for OCing wise? My friends NForce3 has diffrent levels of preset Ocing that the mobo can enable. IF it doesnt have anything like this.. are there just online guides/setups i can find that people have already done and i can copy them? I know pretty much nothing about ocing but if i could make a 150 dollar processor as fast as a 800 dollar one SAFELY then hell i wanna learn. http://pub99.ezboard.com/bairsoftstop<i></i>

Presets? Other then default safe settings, no, not really. At least that I'm aware of.<
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