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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:12 AM 
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FARK.com had an interesting post that I think would be fun to recreate here. In Basic, just a Question:

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A lot of interesting answers.

In the comments it also came up with this short story that was sort of neat:

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International Association of Time Travelers: Members' Forum Subforum: Europe � Twentieth Century � Second World War
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11/15/2104
At 14:52:28, FreedomFighter69 wrote:
Reporting my first temporal excursion since joining IATT: have just returned from 1936 Berlin, having taken the place of one of Leni Riefenstahl's cameramen and assassinated Adolf Hitler during the opening of the Olympic Games. Let a free world rejoice!

At 14:57:44, SilverFox316 wrote:
Back from 1936 Berlin; incapacitated FreedomFighter69 before he could pull his little stunt. Freedomfighter69, as you are a new member, please read IATT Bulletin 1147 regarding the killing of Hitler before your next excursion. Failure to do so may result in your expulsion per Bylaw 223.

At 18:06:59, BigChill wrote:
Take it easy on the kid, SilverFox316; everybody kills Hitler on their first trip. I did. It always gets fixed within a few minutes, what's the harm?

At 18:33:10, SilverFox316 wrote:
Easy for you to say, BigChill, since to my recollection you've never volunteered to go back and fix it. You think I've got nothing better to do?

11/16/2104
At 10:15:44, JudgeDoom wrote:
Good news! I just left a French battlefield in October 1916, where I shot dead a young Bavarian Army messenger named Adolf Hitler! Not bad for my first time, no? Sic semper tyrannis!

At 10:22:53, SilverFox316 wrote:
Back from 1916 France I come, having at the last possible second prevented Hitler's early demise at the hands of JudgeDoom and, incredibly, restrained myself from shooting JudgeDoom and sparing us all years of correcting his misguided antics. READ BULLETIN 1147, PEOPLE!

At 15:41:18, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Point of order: issues related to Hitler's service in the Bavarian Army ought to go in the World War I forum.

11/21/2104
At 02:21:30, SneakyPete wrote:
Vienna, 1907: after numerous attempts, have infiltrated the Academy of Fine Arts and facilitated Adolf Hitler's admission to that institution. Goodbye, Hitler the dictator; hello, Hitler the modestly successful landscape artist! Brought back a few of his paintings as well, any buyers?

At 02:29:17, SilverFox316 wrote:
All right; that's it. Having just returned from 1907 Vienna where I secured the expulsion of Hitler from the Academy by means of an elaborate prank involving the Prefect, a goat, and a substantial quantity of olive oil, I now turn my attention to our newer brethren, who, despite rules to the contrary, seem to have no intention of reading Bulletin 1147 (nor its Addendum, Alternate Means of Subverting the Hitlerian Destiny, and here I'm looking at you, SneakyPete). Permit me to sum it up and save you the trouble: no Hitler means no Third Reich, no World War II, no rocketry programs, no electronics, no computers, no time travel. Get the picture?

At 02:29:49, SilverFox316 wrote:
PS to SneakyPete: your Hitler paintings aren't worth anything, schmuck, since you probably brought them directly here from 1907, which means the paint's still fresh. Freaking n00b.

At 07:55:03, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Amen, SilverFox316. Although, point of order, issues relating to early 1900s Vienna should really go in that forum, not here. This has been a recurring problem on this forum.

11/26/2104
At 18:26:18, Jason440953 wrote:
SilverFox316, you seem to know a lot about the rules; what are your thoughts on traveling to, say, Braunau, Austria, in 1875 and killing Alois Hitler before he has a chance to father Adolf? Mind you, I'm asking out of curiosity alone, since I already went and did it.

At 18:42:55, SilverFox316 wrote:
Jason440953, see Bylaw 7, which states that all IATT rulings regarding historical persons apply to ancestors as well. I post this for the benefit of others, as I already made this clear to young Jason in person as I was dragging him back from 1875 by his hair. Got that? No ancestors. (Though if anyone were to go back to, say, Moline, Illinois, in, say, 2080 or so, and intercede to prevent Jason440953's conception, I could be persuaded to look the other way.)

At 21:19:17, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Point of order: discussions of nineteenth–century Austria and twenty–first–century Illinois should be confined to their respective forums.

12/01/2104
At 15:56:41, AsianAvenger wrote:
FreedomFighter69, JudgeDoom, SneakyPete, Jason440953, you're nothing but a pack of racists. Let the light of righteousness shine upon your squalid little viper's nest!

At 16:40:17, BigTom44 wrote:
Well, here we frickin' go.

At 16:58:42, FreedomFighter69 wrote:
Racist? For killing Hitler? WTF?

At 17:12:52, SaucyAussie wrote:
AsianAvenger, you're not rehashing that whole Nagasaki issue again, are you? We just got everyone calmed down from last time.

At 17:22:37, LadyJustice wrote:
I'm with SaucyAussie. AsianAvenger, you're making even less sense than usual. What gives?

At 18:56:09, AsianAvenger wrote:
What gives is everyone's repeated insistence on a course of action which, even if successful, would only save a few million Europeans. It would be no more trouble to travel to Fuyuanshui, China, in 1814 and kill Hong Xiuquan, thus preventing the Taiping Rebellion of the mid–nineteenth century and saving fifty million lives in the process. But, hey, what are fifty million yellow devils more or less, right, guys? We've got Poles and Frenchmen to worry about.

At 19:01:38, LadyJustice wrote:
Well, what's stopping you from killing him, AsianAvenger?

At 19:11:43, AsianAvenger wrote:
Only to have SilverFox316 undo my work? What's the point?

At 19:59:23, SilverFox316 wrote:
Actually, it seems like a pretty good idea to me, AsianAvenger. No complications that I can see.

At 20:07:25, Big Chill wrote:
Go for it, man.

At 20:11:31, AsianAvenger wrote:
Very well. I shall return in mere moments, the savior of millions!

At 20:14:17, LadyJustice wrote:
Just checked the timeline; congrats on your success, AsianAvenger!

12/02/2104
At 10:52:53, LadyJustice wrote:
AsianAvenger?

At 11:41:40, SilverFox316 wrote:
AsianAvenger, we need your report, buddy.

At 17:15:32, SilverFox316 wrote:
Okay, apparently AsianAvenger was descended from Hong Xiuquan. Any volunteers to go back and stop him from negating his own existence?

12/10/2104
At 09:14:44, SilverFox316 wrote:
Anyone?

At 09:47:13, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Point of order: this discussion belongs in the Qing Dynasty forum. We're adults; can we keep sight of what's important around here?


Anyway, back to the Question:
Imagine traveling back in time to any age and starting over, knowing what you know now. What year is it, how old are you and what is your game plan?

I have a few different things. Going back about 1990 or so, when I had an offer to buy "Frequencies" for cell phones. As I remember it, it was described to me back then, I could own the frequency and cell phone companies would pay to use my frequency. It would of cost me $1500 to invest in it.

Buying into Microsoft and Apple and Google would be major.

Back further, in high school(Around 1979), I wanted to take a night class in Data Processing and basic programing. My dad insisted that the family take a course on basic car repairs. I hated the class and got almost no use out of it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:24 AM 
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Hm.

I guess the only stuff I would really do is stuff like "Invest in Microsoft". Life changes and stuff, I wouldn't mess with at all. I'm quite happy with how it's all turned out. ;)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:39 PM 
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People interested in this concept should check out a book called Replay by Ken Grimwood.

http://www.amazon.com/Replay-Ken-Grimwood/dp/068816112X

It is rare that I view time travel as a well written concept, be it movie, book, or tv show, but this one handled a lot of the interesting questions very well, such as "what happens if you try to change something huge, like JFK's murder?"

And what would happen if the government knew there were people that could do it?

A good read.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:54 AM 
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Go back to 1999 and plant a virus that shuts down EverQuest. ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:54 AM 
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I'm a fan of the infinite realities splitting off from the decisions we make pseudotheory. As such I see time travel as a horror story waiting to unravel.

Say you go back in time to change an event in your life. You've just shifted from the reality where the event happened to the reality where the event didn't happen. So you go back to your true time and realize there's already another you there, he didn't just disappear suddenly because you came along in this reality. So what are you going to do, be stuck as your own doppleganger? So you decide to go back and change things back. You stop yourself from ending that event, and hope you don't create huge ripples in the process that other changes still happen to create another reality. But now there are two time traveling 'you's in the past, which one goes back? Which one of you gets to go back? Or what about the third you that suddenly showed up, this one who had a much harsher life and thinks it's just fine and dandy to off his other selves.

I think Jakie Chan already did this movie though.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:39 AM 
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My pet peeve with time travel stories is that they rarely deal with location as well as time. If I went back in time just 12 hours, given the rotation of the earth around the sun, the rotation of the solar system around the galaxy, and the movement of the galaxy itself, etc.... then I would pop back into existence in the middle of space somewhere and instantaneously die unless prepared for it.

Time travel stories tend to simple overlook this fact and rely on the illusion that the earth is immobile.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:50 AM 
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I wouldn't say that.

I'd say that they conveniently make "space/time machines" rather than just "time machines"

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