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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:12 PM 
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Update: Fedor to Strikeforce; UFC Responds

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:54 PM 
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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:42 PM 
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"Fedor is a f---ing joke," UFC President Dana White responded Monday after learning that Emelianenko had signed with Strikeforce. “He turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!"

White also addressed fans: "I feel sorry for the real fight fans. I wanted to make the deal, but it takes two and it is very obvious Fedor doesn't want to fight the best, and doesn't give a sh-t about the fans!"

Don't hold back, Dana. Tell us how you really feel! lol

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dana white is a douchebag anyway

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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note: I firmly believe that dana white, in the midst of "negotiations" with Fedor, was not going to back down on UFC getting control of the Fedor "name" to market with, thus limited Fedor's options after his inevitable retirement.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:33 PM 
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And you base that belief on what?

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the fact that dana white is a douchebag.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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Ahh. See, I doubt that was the case at all, considering there are a number of former champs who have gone their separate ways from UFC with no problem finding sponsors or fights. So the idea that the UFC would barter for the sole rights to a fighter's name, when that's not something they've done before, seems a little far-fetched.

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Check UFC's marketing agreements that went into effect last year.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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Uhh... sure... I'm right on that. lol

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basically, if a fighter signs with UFC, and wants them to sell any merchandise (and I mean *any* merchandise), the agreement they have to sign with the merchandising company (which is authorized by UFC) says they have to sign away their likeness rights for perpetuity.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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So... don't have the UFC sell merchandise for you, then.

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well, that also prevents you from selling anything at UFC events, which I'm assuming is a rather large moneymaker as far as merchandising goes.

it also requires the fighter to have a decent bit of market acument themselves, or the money to hire someone who does.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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Well, if any fighter has that, I'm certain Fedor does. It's not like he hasn't been doing it on his own for ages anyways.

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True, but that might have been the deciding factor in his "negotiation" with UFC.

who knows, no one's talking about why fedor walked out.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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Which seems kinda odd to me. I can't imagine why neither would want to publicize what they felt their difficulties were. I could understand if one side didn't want to bring it up if they were being hard-nosed about the negotiations, but why both sides?

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maybe they actually signed an agreement and they're being close lipped about it!

this is their plan, to get us to talk about it!

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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I don't think White could be that sneaky if he tried.


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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:21 PM 
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I'm pretty bummed about Fedor going to Strikfeforce. I wanted to see him show Brock what MMA is about.

Fedor's signing has sparked a bit of a fued between UFC and Strikeforce.

Dana White is pissed.

Strikfeforce responds.

I'm rooting for UFC here just because I'm selfish, and I want to see the best fighters going up against each other.


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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:36 PM 
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Huh. Strikeforce is on Showtime? Sweet, gives me another good reason to actually be subscribed to it (Dexter being the primary reason).

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yeah, I'm about to re-up my showtime subscription, strikeforce will be icing on the cake.

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Too bad Vinnie Mac can't be more like Dana White.


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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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Dana goes ballistic. Vince just gets indignant. It's almost sad sometimes.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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Too bad.

- The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That's 5 mil a fight

- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot

- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.

- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.

- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.

Apparently, for good or bad, M-1 refuses to sign a deal unless the UFC agrees to co-promote.

That was the deal offered. There is 2 reasons it will never go through, based on the co promotion problems. 1 Dana is right, the UFC has made this business the way it is today, you can't deny it, why should he give M1 global half of it when it comes to Fedor? The other reason is who owns the UFC. The Fratita's are in the gambling industry, and the background and security clearances that have to be checked before they get into bed with someone would not pass due to m1 being a russian company, who says the mob doesn't own them?

So what's fedor do? Sign with Strikeforce for 700k a fight, and Dana is also right that they are broke. They can't afford Fedor, and who is he going to fight?

It's a shitty situation for fight fans, because as much as I think Fedor is a badass, his best fights were 5+ years ago, and there is new blood to spill, and m1 won't let him.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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I'd rather see Fedor/Silva, just to shut my nephew up about how Silva is the best MMA fighter around.

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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:16 AM 
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Vanamar wrote:
just to shut my nephew up about how Silva is the best MMA fighter around.

Best pound for pound fighter and I'll agree with your nephew, along with a fuckton of other people. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Fedor Emelianenko
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meh. I think fedor could take him :P

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