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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:04 PM 
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I have been keeping track of things again for my index, making some tweaks, and here it is!

1 New England Patriots 9.939
2 Indianapolis Colts 8.240
3 Dallas Cowboys 7.997
4 Green Bay Packers 5.523
5 Pittsburgh Steelers 5.192
6 Seattle Seahawks 4.059
7 Tennessee Titans 3.877
8 Jacksonville Jaguars 2.889
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1.991
10 New York Giants 1.178
11 Baltimore Ravens 0.813
12 Arizona Cardinals 0.430
13 Detroit Lions 0.323
14 Washington Redskins 0.145
15 Houston Texans 0.059
16 Denver Broncos -0.026
17 Philadelphia Eagles -0.093
18 Kansas City Chiefs -0.646
19 Carolina Panthers -0.787
20 San Diego Chargers -1.478
21 Oakland Raiders -1.579
22 Minnesota Vikings -1.866
23 Cleveland Browns -2.125
24 Chicago Bears -2.746
25 Cincinnati Bengals -3.252
26 Atlanta Falcons -3.664
27 San Francisco 49ers -3.732
28 New York Jets -4.168
29 Buffalo Bills -4.709
30 New Orleans Saints -6.452
31 St. Louis Rams -7.513
32 Miami Dolphins -7.682

I made the following changes from last year:
1 - Offensive Index is now: ((rushing yards per game/100)*1.5)+(passing yards per game/200)+(points scored per game/21)
2 - Defensive Index is now: ((rushing yards allowed per game/100)*1.5)+(passing yards allowed per game/200)+(points allowed per game/21)
3 - I added .125 to the Team Index for away games in the Strength of Schedule Rating.
4 - I made the above changes to the 2006-07 index, brought those values to the 2007-08 index and added them to the current year index with diminishing returns (+"last year#" * (1/(number of games played this year)). So now last year's value is counting for 1/4th of the total. By then end of they year it will be 1/16th of the total.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:53 PM 
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Do you pick your games for the PUOSU based on this?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:15 PM 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:22 PM 
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It looks pretty good-- I might! :p


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:28 PM 
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Yay for my Rams not being last.

Gonna be a long damn season.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:07 PM 
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Actually Frib, I have taken your suggestion and used it for this week. There are a couple games where the teams are ranked either right next to each other or within a couple of each other. I am going to continue to fine tune the ranking system to see if I can get it to be fairly accurate in producing the actual score differental. (I doubt I will be successful in that)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:29 PM 
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looking at the current Sportsbook odds and using my calculations the following seem a bit off:
New England -16 1/2 vs Cleveland, I have NE as a 10 1/2 point fav.
Pittsburgh -6 1/2 vs Seattle, I have Pit as a 1 1/2 point fav.
Indianapolis -10 vs Tampa Bay, I have Indy as a 4 1/2 point fav
Denver -1 vs San Diego, I have Denver as a 5 point fav
NY Giants -3 1/2 vs NY Jets, I have the Giants as a 5 1/2 point fav
Washington -3 1/2 vs Detroit, I have DETRIOT as a 1 point fav
Green Bay -3 vs Chicago, I have Green Bay as an 8 point fav
New Orleans -3 vs Carolina, I have CAROLINA as a 6 point fav
Arizona -3 vs St. Loius, I have Arizona as a 6 1/2 point fav

The rest of my numbers are within a point or so of the line. Could be very interesting.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:30 PM 
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Remember though that their lines include a hedge of forcing the bet to be even. So this adds a subjective measure of what people really think of a teams chances.

Also, compare your weekly rankings and what the score differential predicted to the actuals of the games, this might be telling.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:28 PM 
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New England -16 1/2 vs Cleveland, I have NE as a 10 1/2 point fav. - I missed this one
Pittsburgh -6 1/2 vs Seattle, I have Pit as a 1 1/2 point fav. - I missed this one
NY Giants -3 1/2 vs NY Jets, I have the Giants as a 5 1/2 point fav - Hit this one
Washington -3 1/2 vs Detroit, I have DETRIOT as a 1 point fav - Missed this one (badly)
New Orleans -3 vs Carolina, I have CAROLINA as a 6 point fav - I hit this one
Arizona -3 vs St. Loius, I have Arizona as a 6 1/2 point fav - missed this one (damn late TD)
Indianapolis -10 vs Tampa Bay, I have Indy as a 4 1/2 point fav - Indy KILLED them... Chalk this up as a miss
Denver -1 vs San Diego, I have Denver as a 5 point fav - See above, SD Killed them.

Green Bay -3 vs Chicago, I have Green Bay as an 8 point fav - Missed

Well, my formula sucks for providing odds. I only hit two of these. Looks like it need more work.

However, I only missed two games straight. (San Diego over Denver and Chicago over Green Bay).


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:30 PM 
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latest index:
1 New England Patriots 11.392
2 Indianapolis Colts 10.302
3 Dallas Cowboys 9.003
4 Pittsburgh Steelers 8.130
5 Tennessee Titans 6.055
6 Jacksonville Jaguars 6.014
7 Green Bay Packers 5.154
8 Washington Redskins 4.968
9 New York Giants 4.243
10 Baltimore Ravens 3.993
11 Seattle Seahawks 3.654
12 San Diego Chargers 3.452
13 Arizona Cardinals 3.035
14 Houston Texans 3.031
15 Carolina Panthers 2.487
16 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2.337
17 Chicago Bears 1.985
18 Philadelphia Eagles 1.622
19 Detroit Lions 1.187
20 Kansas City Chiefs 0.844
21 Denver Broncos 0.359
22 San Francisco 49ers 0.033
23 Cleveland Browns 0.030
24 Oakland Raiders 0.008
25 Minnesota Vikings -0.335
26 Cincinnati Bengals -0.556
27 Atlanta Falcons -0.877
28 Buffalo Bills -1.221
29 New York Jets -1.711
30 Miami Dolphins -2.088
31 New Orleans Saints -3.650
32 St. Louis Rams -4.316


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:14 AM 
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Have you seen this site?

Football Outsiders

It's one of my favorite time-killers. They have tons of stat breakdowns like the one you're doing here.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:38 AM 
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Your analysis for team power ratings would need an additional piece for matchups to predict games.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:51 AM 
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Yes, I am working on that additional part. I am not posting that part here, because it is still in progress.

My current predictor has the following ananomalies (Using current Sportsbook odds from USA Today.com):
Miami +4.5 @ Cle, my line only has Miami +2
New England -5.5 @ Dallas, my line only has NE -2 (however I think NE will win by 10+, and did you know that NE has covered every week this year)
Cincinnati -3 @ KC, my line has this as a KC pick’em
San Diego -9.5 vs. Oakland, my line has SD -1 (see I still need to do more work here)
Houston +6.5 @ Jacksonville, my line has Houston +3
Tennessee +3 @ Tampa, my line has Tennessee -3
NY Giants -3.5 @ Atlanta, my line has NYG -5
Washington +3 @ Green Bay, I have this as a GB pick’em
Chicago -5 vs. Minnesota, I have Chicago -2
Carolina +4.5 @ Arizona, I have this as an AZ pick’em (I wouldn’t touch this game. Too many ?? players)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:39 PM 
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Current Index:
1 New England Patriots 11.526
2 Indianapolis Colts 10.324
3 Pittsburgh Steelers 7.977
4 Jacksonville Jaguars 6.989
5 Dallas Cowboys 6.460
6 Green Bay Packers 6.184
7 New York Giants 4.825
8 San Diego Chargers 4.662
9 Baltimore Ravens 4.611
10 Tennessee Titans 4.389
11 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3.777
12 Carolina Panthers 3.714
13 Washington Redskins 3.593
14 Philadelphia Eagles 2.762
15 Kansas City Chiefs 2.160
16 Minnesota Vikings 2.075
17 Seattle Seahawks 1.881
18 Houston Texans 1.788
19 Arizona Cardinals 1.248
20 Cleveland Browns 1.226
21 Detroit Lions 1.130
22 Chicago Bears 0.664
23 Denver Broncos 0.410
24 San Francisco 49ers -0.632
25 New Orleans Saints -0.834
26 Oakland Raiders -1.240
27 Cincinnati Bengals -1.331
28 Buffalo Bills -1.475
29 Atlanta Falcons -1.591
30 New York Jets -2.151
31 Miami Dolphins -3.219
32 St. Louis Rams -4.839


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Updated (still tweaking values)
1 New England Patriots
2 Indianapolis Colts
3 Dallas Cowboys
4 Green Bay Packers
5 New York Giants
6 Pittsburgh Steelers
7 Tennessee Titans
8 Jacksonville Jaguars
9 San Diego Chargers
10 Washington Redskins
11 Carolina Panthers
12 Seattle Seahawks
13 Baltimore Ravens
14 Kansas City Chiefs
15 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
16 Detroit Lions
17 Denver Broncos
18 Chicago Bears
19 Philadelphia Eagles
20 Cleveland Browns
21 Houston Texans
22 Minnesota Vikings
23 Cincinnati Bengals
24 Arizona Cardinals
25 New Orleans Saints
26 Buffalo Bills
27 San Francisco 49ers
28 Oakland Raiders
29 Atlanta Falcons
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:10 AM 
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So if I put together a spreadsheet and want to display it here, what is the best method?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:16 AM 
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either take a SS and post the pic or post a link to the spreadsheet. I don't think you can post a spreadsheet


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:39 AM 
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Actually you can:

https://www.google.com/accounts/Service ... page&nui=1


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:18 AM 
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http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p5zg8j2Ak0TNlryuqoc0rYQ

Shows a quick difference between the Power Rankings in ESPN compared to your rankings.

It shows that there are only 4-5 teams that are significantly over\under rated in comparison to how the pros do it, so that is pretty good.

The glaring differences can definately be debated:
You have the Lions rated significantly lower than ESPN. (5 spots)
You have the Cardinals rated significantly lower than ESPN (4 spots)
You have the Vikings rated significantly higher than ESPN (4 spots)

These are all mid level tier teams on the bubble of making the playoffs IMO, so I think this will actually get tested as far as how good your system is.

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1 New England Patriots 8.971
2 Indianapolis Colts 8.328
3 Dallas Cowboys 4.484
4 Green Bay Packers 4.280
5 New York Giants 3.423
6 Pittsburgh Steelers 3.423
7 San Diego Chargers 3.135
8 Jacksonville Jaguars 2.976
9 Tennessee Titans 2.927
10 Detroit Lions 1.318
11 Seattle Seahawks 1.013
12 Baltimore Ravens 0.976
13 Kansas City Chiefs 0.835
14 Washington Redskins 0.370
15 Philadelphia Eagles 0.225
16 Carolina Panthers 0.214
17 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -0.299
18 Cleveland Browns -0.418
19 New Orleans Saints -0.648
20 Buffalo Bills -0.841
21 Denver Broncos -0.972
22 Chicago Bears -1.297
23 Arizona Cardinals -1.898
24 Minnesota Vikings -2.205
25 Cincinnati Bengals -2.312
26 Houston Texans -2.479
27 Oakland Raiders -4.073
28 San Francisco 49ers -4.276
29 Atlanta Falcons -4.278
30 New York Jets -5.217
31 Miami Dolphins -7.062
32 St. Louis Rams -7.650


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1 New England Patriots 9.038
2 Indianapolis Colts 6.097
3 Dallas Cowboys 5.051
4 Green Bay Packers 4.641
5 Pittsburgh Steelers 4.173
6 New York Giants 3.476
7 Tennessee Titans 3.415
8 Detroit Lions 2.416
9 Jacksonville Jaguars 1.498
10 San Diego Chargers 1.390
11 Washington Redskins 1.051
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0.697
13 New Orleans Saints 0.439
14 Cleveland Browns 0.424
15 Buffalo Bills 0.102
16 Seattle Seahawks 0.076
17 Baltimore Ravens -0.235
18 Kansas City Chiefs -0.272
19 Carolina Panthers -0.406
20 Minnesota Vikings -0.597
21 Philadelphia Eagles -0.698
22 Chicago Bears -1.279
23 Houston Texans -1.300
24 Denver Broncos -2.139
25 Atlanta Falcons -2.508
26 Arizona Cardinals -2.734
27 Cincinnati Bengals -3.026
28 Oakland Raiders -4.653
29 San Francisco 49ers -4.909
30 New York Jets -5.469
31 Miami Dolphins -6.980
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Dallas (yech!) is the new #2 and Miami is the new #32

1 New England Patriots 9.036
2 Dallas Cowboys 5.475
3 Green Bay Packers 5.165
4 Indianapolis Colts 4.680
5 Pittsburgh Steelers 4.635
6 Jacksonville Jaguars 2.318
7 San Diego Chargers 2.308
8 Tennessee Titans 1.824
9 New York Giants 1.808
10 Detroit Lions 1.070
11 Seattle Seahawks 1.070
12 Buffalo Bills 0.682
13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0.676
14 Philadelphia Eagles 0.147
15 Washington Redskins 0.063
16 Chicago Bears -0.322
17 Cleveland Browns -0.504
18 Denver Broncos -0.792
19 New Orleans Saints -1.142
20 Kansas City Chiefs -1.146
21 Carolina Panthers -1.172
22 Arizona Cardinals -1.246
23 Baltimore Ravens -1.248
24 Houston Texans -1.366
25 Minnesota Vikings -1.431
26 Cincinnati Bengals -1.448
27 Atlanta Falcons -1.575
28 San Francisco 49ers -5.219
29 St. Louis Rams -5.228
30 Oakland Raiders -5.308
31 New York Jets -5.467
32 Miami Dolphins -7.090


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1 New England Patriots 9.372
2 Dallas Cowboys 5.720
3 Green Bay Packers 5.536
4 Indianapolis Colts 5.125
5 Pittsburgh Steelers 3.082
6 Jacksonville Jaguars 2.847
7 New York Giants 2.579
8 Seattle Seahawks 1.648
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1.488
10 San Diego Chargers 1.396
11 Tennessee Titans 0.839
12 Philadelphia Eagles 0.755
13 Detroit Lions 0.336
14 Cleveland Browns 0.282
15 Denver Broncos -0.010
16 Arizona Cardinals -0.381
17 Washington Redskins -0.401
18 Houston Texans -0.612
19 Buffalo Bills -0.622
20 Minnesota Vikings -0.768
21 Chicago Bears -1.113
22 Kansas City Chiefs -1.610
23 Carolina Panthers -1.755
24 New Orleans Saints -1.850
25 Baltimore Ravens -1.927
26 Cincinnati Bengals -2.307
27 Atlanta Falcons -2.464
28 New York Jets -3.575
29 St. Louis Rams -4.116
30 Oakland Raiders -5.512
31 San Francisco 49ers -5.733
32 Miami Dolphins -7.051


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1 New England Patriots 9.316
2 Dallas Cowboys 6.024
3 Green Bay Packers 5.773
4 Indianapolis Colts 5.310
5 Pittsburgh Steelers 3.646
6 Jacksonville Jaguars 3.471
7 Seattle Seahawks 2.171
8 San Diego Chargers 2.053
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2.040
10 New York Giants 1.399
11 Cleveland Browns 0.909
12 Minnesota Vikings 0.117
13 Detroit Lions -0.071
14 Tennessee Titans -0.115
15 Philadelphia Eagles -0.245
16 Chicago Bears -0.433
17 New Orleans Saints -0.642
18 Denver Broncos -0.862
19 Houston Texans -1.287
20 Cincinnati Bengals -1.294
21 Washington Redskins -1.315
22 Arizona Cardinals -1.489
23 Buffalo Bills -1.502
24 Kansas City Chiefs -2.159
25 Baltimore Ravens -2.279
26 Carolina Panthers -2.446
27 Atlanta Falcons -2.875
28 Oakland Raiders -3.518
29 San Francisco 49ers -3.569
30 New York Jets -4.201
31 St. Louis Rams -4.388
32 Miami Dolphins -7.263


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