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I'm enjoying this game quite a bit more then I enjoyed Morrowind. The whole continent not being a giant swamp is great. <i></i>

ya but on the other hand every single damn dungeon crawl seems to be the same. every dungeon i've found, and every dungeon quest i've had has led me to some danky cave. <i></i>

Wow..just wow. I switched out my old Geforce 5600 for a 9800 Pro I caught on sale and went from slow combat with everything turned off to being able to run it almost full settings without any lag or slow spots. This game is beautiful and while I was never much of a person who cared about graphics to enhance my gaming experience all I have to say is if you are playing this game on low settings you are missing alot.<
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you can get a complete set of novice alchemy gear at any mage guild. Also, i swear there was a mortar and pestle in the beginning area somewhere. <i></i>

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There is a mortar and pestle sitting on a crate next to the very first goblin you fight in the caves at the start of the game. <i></i>

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You can do a quick save before you open every chest, I usually do a quick load if I
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Instead of doing the main quest I went and did 1 of the mage guild quests and then went straight to the arena just to see how it was like. Obvisouly I have basically no gear and haven't bought a spell yet (saving for a pimp summons) but I did all the way until the first magiac user (one of last warrior rank fights) without even a close fight. <
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Still an amazing game but I really do not like the pure skill based leveling system. I think it would be better with a might and magic modeled system to be honest. On paper its a great system that eliminates truly overpowering etc but lets be frank...thats part of the fun of games. Have that carrot dangling and once you achive it you just feel massive but then "oh shit" I have to go to dragon land for some quests and actually get pushed to the limits with your new found uberness to kill them.<
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I'm still not sure if I'll buy this game. One, I play RPG's for story, not open ended worlds. I really don't want to walk around and build up a char etc. All I want is a great story and play it until the end. I don't mind doing a lot of the side quests, but when I watch the videos of this game, it seems like an offline MMO (boring watching them) lol<
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If you are just starting out and getting scared that you just can't get any amount of cash to buy anything good or any good spells just get a few levels. Even after winning the entire arena side quest and just about done with my mage rec. quests it seemed like I was poor as hell trying to save up for those nice 3k+ spells then low and behold after XX level your opponents in caves etc upgrade there gear which starts selling for 200-900 gold a crack instead of the 20-30 bullshit. Also magical items of the same type of armor start popping up 2 levels after you start receiving the normal type armor.<
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Gothic 3 will need it's opwn forum!!! Masjaun<i></i>

Does this game crash alot like Morrowind would if you attacked a gaurd or anyone else in town? i'm not talking about a game
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