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Author:  Worthy [ Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:59 AM ]
Post subject:  Obamacare

An interesting story about someone trying to sign up for Obama Care.
Can anyone confirm this?

Quote:
Obamacare Fines to be Seized From Bank Accounts?
Posted By yihan On October 2, 2013 @ 11:47 am In Red Title Front Page,Tile | No Comments

Man who attempted to sign up claims he was threatened with drivers license being revoked, federal tax lien on home

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
October 2, 2013
A man who attempted to sign up for Obamacare online was told that a fine of over $4,000 dollars a year for refusing to take out mandatory health insurance could be taken directly from his bank account, and that his drivers license would be suspended and a federal tax lien placed against his home, according to an entry on the HealthCare.gov Facebook page.


Image: Obama signs the Affordable Care Act.

If true, the implementation of Obamacare is going to be a whole lot more draconian than Americans have been led to believe.

Will Sheehan claims that when he tried to sign up for Obamacare and then register to opt out, he received an ominous warning. Sheehan’s full Facebook post reads;

“I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.

I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the “REPERCUSSIONS PORTION” for “non-payment” of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with “Non-Payment” and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy “Automatically withdraw” your “penalties” weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is “Free” or even “Affordable.”

Sheehan went on to point out that the site makes you input all your personal information before giving you an indication of the costs, meaning a database of the “uninsured” is being built. He added that he could not afford to pay the premium so would have to break the law and pay the fine, leaving him with no health care coverage.

The federal government has consistently denied that any fines pertaining to Obamacare non-compliance could be seized from bank accounts, despite reports last year that the IRS had hired 16,500 new agents to harass citizens who attempt to evade the new law.

“There’s no criminal sanctions for not paying this, and there’s no ability to levy a bank account or do seizures,” then-IRS commissioner Douglas Shulman said in April 2010.

In addition, Americans who refuse to pay for mandatory health insurance “shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution,” according to the law itself.

Section 1501(g)(2) of the Affordable Care Act also states that the IRS cannot “file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section.”

Either Sheehan’s claim that he received this notice is a lie, or the feds have been dishonest with the American people all along, and the revolt against Obamacare is about to take “don’t tread on me” to a whole new level.

Read a copy of the full exchange on Facebook below.(Picture at Link)

Author:  Neesha the Necro [ Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:31 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Obamacare

Yes, this is all absolutely true 100% no ifs, ands, or buts. They were going to take his driver's license away forever and ever and ever. They also told him he had to eat Bigfoot's feces for dinner for the next 7 years... without salt.

Author:  Sarissa [ Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:03 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Obamacare

What? Free isn't free? But but they promised!

Pretty sure states issue licenses, but yes the government is adept at collecting fines

Author:  Tranthas [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:34 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Obamacare

While the scenario you describe is theoretically possible, it isn't likely. A $4,037 fine (like in the chain letter) would require that this guy makes $403,700 per year, since the maximum such fine is $95 or 1% of your taxable income, whichever is greater.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/penalty.asp

Author:  Tranthas [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:35 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Obamacare

Sorry, forgot to address the rest.

The rest is total horseshit. Penalties under Obamacare do not extend to forfeiture of property or jail time, and certainly not revocation of your driver's license -- a bizarrely unrelated article from a totally separate government institution.

Author:  Sarissa [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:27 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Obamacare

It can extend to tax refunds and profits from property sales. Unsure about payment of benefits but I doubt it.

Author:  krby71 [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:25 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Obamacare

The first link is from InfoWars. That alone means it is horse-shit.

The Onion or Daily Current are more reliable than InfoWars (and they are satire pages)

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