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 Post subject: Fuck McCain
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:15 AM 
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First, what he said about DADT in 2006:

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And I understand the opposition to it, and I've had these debates and discussions, but the day that the leadership of the military comes to me and says, senator, we ought to change the policy, then I think we ought to consider seriously changing it because those leaders in the military are the ones we give the responsibility to.


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And so, McCain must clearly have embraced this....right? Oh wait. We're talking about McCain.

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“And so your statement is one that is clearly biased, without the view of Congress being taken into consideration,” McCain said. “I’m happy to say we still have a Congress of the United States that would have to pass a law to repeal ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’, despite your efforts to repeal it in many respects by fiat”:


I'm so glad this jackass got served last year.

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I took that to mean that he is asserting Congress' right to repeal the law and protesting against a possible unilateral move to do so without going through Congress. A view which I disagree with, since Obama has the power an established precedent to simply issue an executive order and *clearly* should do so, sooner rather than later. His view seems to be shared by Obama himself since Obama hasn't issued that executive order and seems to be waiting on Congress to repeal it.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:25 AM 
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Yeah, ok. you should have quoted this part:

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At this moment of immense hardship for our armed services, we should not be seeking to overturn the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy
Wow, that really sucks.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:39 AM 
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I really, really, really can't believe this might finally get done. Could the Dems actually do something right?


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I still find McCain's original statement in 2006 to be idiotic(even though he obviously flip flops all over the place anyway to kowtow to the conservatives when he's seen as too liberal). Yes, let's wait until idiots stop getting their panties in a wad over a guy getting a hard-on in the shower room. Thank God for wiser men back during the civil rights era, or we'd still be waiting for people to get over showering with black men.

Remember that this is the guy who voted against civil union benefits for gay couples in Arizona. Classic McCain.


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This is a silly little thing, but right now there is a junior in my small high school in a small conservative town that is openly gay. Our high school currently only allows couples (as in, a man and a woman) buy tickets for prom. I'm interested to see what happens when he tries to buy tickets for himself and his boyfriend next year. We've talked about it a little and I've already agreed to stand by him if it is an issue, although I imagine I'll lose a few kids from my band program as a result.


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Not to change the topic, but why do you live in a small conservative town?

I dunno... just seems like you set yourself up for misery.


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Remember that this is the guy who voted against civil union benefits for gay couples in Arizona. Classic McCain.


I'm personally trying to figure out if his wife and daughter are simply trying to make him look better somehow through association or if they really do disagree with him on the topic. Both appeared in the NO H8 project in California ( http://www.noh8campaign.com/ currently the first article on the page),

http://cbs2.com/national/mccain.gay.mar ... 39172.html

It is kind of sad I've become so cynical of politicians at this point that I find it easier to believe it is a political stunt to humanize the McCains than I do that they might actually really believe it. Thanks Cheney family. :p


And Fribur, good for you.

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Fribur wrote:
Our high school currently only allows couples (as in, a man and a woman) buy tickets for prom.

Wow.

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That's not unusual at all.

That's why gay rights are the civil rights issue of our time, and why it's not the kind of thing that should be done through the "right channels".


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Completely mind blowing from my perspective, but colour me sheltered in the Great White North.

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1497178/

What's wrong with people..

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 Post subject: Re: Fuck McCain
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:54 AM 
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On a related note, there's a school in Mississippi who canceled their prom entirely rather than allow two lesbians to attend together.


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Syuni D'zpecyzczn wrote:
On a related note, there's a school in Mississippi who canceled their prom entirely rather than allow two lesbians to attend together.

That's what the article I linked talks about? Or am I missing something.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:47 AM 
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You must have posted shortly after I started looking through the thread. =)


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Wow, seriously? Is the school board run by 5-year olds over there?

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Yeah exactly that's just stupid and bad press for the school.

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In a county of 20000, I really don't think the bad press will have much effect.

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Pretty much just read "Mississippi" and nodded. This is pretty epic as well, ODDLY in the same area:

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It borders Pontotoc County, Miss., where more than a decade ago school officials were sued in federal court over their practice of student-led intercom prayer and Bible classes.


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Fribur wrote:
This is a silly little thing, but right now there is a junior in my small high school in a small conservative town that is openly gay. Our high school currently only allows couples (as in, a man and a woman) buy tickets for prom. I'm interested to see what happens when he tries to buy tickets for himself and his boyfriend next year. We've talked about it a little and I've already agreed to stand by him if it is an issue, although I imagine I'll lose a few kids from my band program as a result.


Good for you Fribur, but I'm not surprised. Also your school (if it is a public school) legally has to allow him to attend with his date if he so wishes. They can't prevent it. Well...they CAN but they can be sued over it. Various gay groups have legal info packets now that schools can also access, explaining what the law is. :)

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