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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:00 AM 
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So, yet again they have proven their incompetency...

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Editor's note: Campbell Brown anchors CNN's "Campbell Brown: No Bias, No Bull" at 8 p.m. ET Mondays through Fridays. She delivered this commentary during the "Cutting through the Bull" segment of Thursday night's broadcast.


CNN's Campbell Brown cites a Washington Post report on how the bailout is going.

(CNN) -- It was less than two months ago that Congress passed the $700 billion bailout package. Do you remember how it went down?

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson went to Capitol Hill, got down on his knees and begged House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, warning there would be financial Armageddon if he didn't get this cash.

He asked for a blank check. I criticized him for that at the time and applauded Congress for saying, "No way. There must be an oversight. You must account for the money you spend and answer to us every step of the way."

Well, what a joke. Because here we are today and more than a third of the $700 billion has been spent. Paulson tells us Wednesday, oh, by the way, he doesn't think the money is being spent the right way and he is now going to redirect the rest of it. Watch Campbell Brown's commentary »

For all I know, Paulson is right. Maybe the original plan was a bad one and we do need to regroup. But where the heck is the oversight?

I mean, members of Congress: You delayed passage of the bailout bill because you wanted checks and balances. You wanted oversight over what Paulson does.

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Thursday, The Washington Post reported that the independent oversight jobs that were created as part of this bailout plan haven't even been filled.

No one is keeping watch on how $700 billion of our taxes is being spent. The law requires Congress get a formal report by a certain deadline. The deadline has passed and, big surprise, there is no report.

Here's the quote The Post had from the Treasury Department's inspector general: "It is a mess. I don't think anyone understands right now how we're going to do proper oversight of this thing."

He's right. It is a mess. And who is to blame? Both the White House and Congress were supposed to nominate people to these oversight positions and confirm them.

Both the White House and Congress have dropped the ball and not done their jobs. And because of that, Paulson, a former Wall Street banker, has his blank check and our money.


Not a huge surprise and not a good harbinger for the next 8 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:04 AM 
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You can't dodge a recession. By the time you see it coming all you can do is work to make it as shallow as possible. The bailout is working as intended.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:06 AM 
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Reid & Pelosi will eat our brains!


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:13 AM 
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Snarky00 wrote:
You can't dodge a recession. By the time you see it coming all you can do is work to make it as shallow as possible. The bailout is working as intended.


So, you believe that all the talk of oversight, like the talk of limiting executive compensation and being sure to help "main street" were just sops thrown to an angry public to calm them?

Wow! we agree on something.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:48 AM 
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Obama wants oversight, it's a shame they didn't get more into that bill but I expect him to take swift action when he's Pres.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:59 AM 
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Did you even read the commentary? They haven't filled the oversight positions that were IN the bill.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:45 AM 
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Both the White House and Congress were supposed to nominate people to these oversight positions and confirm them.


So where is the bush hate then? Frankly I hope Reid and Pelosi get replaced. It's not that I am blaming them, there isn't a lot they could have done about the issues this congress was elected for with Bush binding their hands on all the important issues. It is that they are ineffective and I don't feel like they tried hard enough to fight Bush. Backing down over and over again at the threat of a veto. We need someone with a spine in those key positions. Not someone that will take partisan potshots right before difficult votes.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:09 AM 
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Their positions leading up to the financial crisis should be reason enough to disqualify them. Anything hinting towards change should involve removal of the old guard. The incoming president has a good opportunity here to change the climate in Congress. If the status quo is maintained, it's going to be even more petty than it is now.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:49 AM 
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The President doesn't decide Congressional leadership.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:08 AM 
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No he doesn't but as the leader of their party he has a lot of influence in the decision.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:42 AM 
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True, but to many it would seem improper for him to exert beyond a certain level of influence.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:00 PM 
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"Working as intended" sums it up nicely.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:34 PM 
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It shouldn't come as any surprise to him how hard it can be to work with Congress.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:05 PM 
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The bailout was one of the worst ideas in history. It should come as no surprise how little oversight there is considering how much pork went into the bill, and it was basically a money grab. You should hold every congressman who voted to pass it accountable.

And have they learned anything? No. Fast forward to today, and the government is thinking about giving more money to AIG, and to bail out the Big 3 Automakers.

None of this would upset me in the least except this is taxpayer's money we are talking about. My money. Your money.

Not only do I disagree with the bailouts, I don't even get a say in it. So my tax dollars are going exactly to the things I don't want it to go to. Education? No. Healthcare? No. Big companies? Yes.

And people want to raise taxes so our government can continue doling it out to whomever is greasing their wheels? Crazy.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:12 PM 
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This is throwing good money after bad, it'll be gone very quickly (as will this next batch they're asking for), with little to nothing to show for the vast majority of it.

It's raining dollars in DC and the right people are getting rich. Those right people aren't you.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:01 PM 
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Something has to be done to keep credit markets semi-liquid.
There definitely isn't enough oversight because of the rushed nature.

Here's the thing - in a market like this, investors in the financial market should lose their asses and companies should be smacked hard.

New investors (like the government) should make a fortune. I was actually semi-hopeful for the bail-out because I felt the AIG deal was a very solid move (in the spirit of the prior Chrysler bail-out), where the government may actually PROFIT.

The bail-out should be used to inject dollars into mostly sound companies with liquidity issues. This does 2 things: creates liquidity and positions the government to MAKE MONEY.

That's the frustrating thing about the bail-out. This should not be "we lose 700 billion dollars." If managed properly, the bail-out should result in minimal losses (and possibly profit).


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:17 PM 
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If this bailout was being performed legit, I'm sure it would help. But the people getting rich have all the keys to the kingdom in all the right places, keeping themselves from any real accountability while mooching off America as much as they want.

First the treasury, next the granary.


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I threw up a little in my mouth.

Also, I am underwhelmed.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:12 AM 
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Lord Traxor wrote:
If this bailout was being performed legit, I'm sure it would help. But the people getting rich have all the keys to the kingdom in all the right places, keeping themselves from any real accountability while mooching off America as much as they want.

First the treasury, next the granary.
You're right and that's the really annoying part. The bail-out is less concerned with creating liquidity than preserving wealth (of people who should be getting financially raped). That's the fundamental problem with supply-side economics when government intervention is involved.


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 Post subject: Re: Reid & Pelosi
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That's also a fundamental problem with being governed by individuals who would place their (and their lobbyists') portfolio values over the welfare of their constituents.


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