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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:22 AM 
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Again, the actual candidates would need to take the test to see where they really fall. Everything else is just speculation, including the Hitler dot.


As I understand it they already have taken the test... To be sure you'd have to take the test yourself and answer everything how they would have, but what they have essentially done is taken quotes from famous people(such as the candidates) and answered all of the questions the same way they themselves would have according to their own words(quotes).


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:49 PM 
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Fairly close to the results of the last one of these things. It's amusing to see that I'm more liberal than Hillary Rotten Clinton, at least by this metric.

BTW, if Hillary and the other Democrats have opinions that are that similar to Bush, either a) they lied when they took the test for some unknown reason, b) all the major politicians really *are* owned by the same corporate interests, c) the Democrats have been forced to move their party to the right, even as their rhetoric is pretty far to the left, d) the questions are skewed to produce certain desired results, or e) all (or most) of the above.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:13 PM 
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BTW, if Hillary and the other Democrats have opinions that are that similar to Bush, either a) they lied when they took the test for some unknown reason, b) all the major politicians really *are* owned by the same corporate interests, c) the Democrats have been forced to move their party to the right, even as their rhetoric is pretty far to the left, d) the questions are skewed to produce certain desired results, or e) all (or most) of the above.

The answer is e, obviously.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:50 PM 
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The answer is e, obviously.
Okay, so, does that mean the parties are now merely competing brands, in the sense that Coke and Pepsi, or Tide and Cheer are competing brands? If that's the case, does it truly matter who actually wins any race for any office -- because in the end, you'll just end up with one corporate lackey or another, right?

Here's the thing: There's no way in hell I'd vote for any of the current Democrat candidates because they preach the same damn message that every Democrat has deliverd since at least 1932. You can make the same argument about most of the Republicans except Ron Paul, who has as much chance of winning the nomination as I have of being named Miss America. It's to the point where you can predict every word out of every candidate's mouth from here till Nov. 2008 without even thinking about it. We know the Democrats are cowardly, illegal-immigrant-loving appeasers who want to abort every baby in America, hate God, like to dunk crucifixes in jars of pee, want to impoverish everyone through their luddite economic and environmental policies, and promote lasciviousness and a breakdown of cutural mores; and we know Republicans are hicks who drive pickups, knock up their sisters, say "Jeeee-zusss!" a lot, hate anyone who isn't white, like to start wars, want the world to live in a toxic waste wonderland, and don't know Miles Davis from Dizzy Gllespie, other than a couple culturally astute Republicans might recognize them as just a couple of them thar dead Negoes. That about covers both the election and the Madison Avenue-fed cultural divide, doesn't it?

As I've said before, America's politics have become infested with bad dialectics at every turn: Iraq, race, abortion, homosexuality, careers, what fuel to burn in cars, and even marriage are being dissected, and the people are forced to choose between Brand L and Brand C whether they like it or not. Facts are distorted, massaged, and conveniently forgotten in order to ensure that if you're not with me on Iraq, for example, well, by God, you're a nationalist and a fascist, or a coward and a seditionist. The great common ground that pushed us forward and built the sense of community that America used to have is essentially gone, and it likely won't reappear until the people stop allowing ourselves to be bought and sold by our own money, and our ideas to come from other people instead of from ourselves.

And no, I haven't become some damn candyass liberal. I'm just sick of watching the country as a whole and an awful lot of its individual people flush away untold promise and talent and potential greatness for no reason other than that's the safe thing to do, or because it's easier that way, or because you can't possibly succeed in doing things other than according to what money says to do. And I know that most people, regardless of race or sex or party affiliation or income, feel the same way. But we can't change -- not because we don't want to, but because we're afraid to. We're afraid that if we step outside the box, we'll get swatted down and lose what little we have; and most people aren't willing to take that risk. So we keep getting mediocre candidates with mediocre track records, but whom we're told are brilliant people with charm, charisma, and fresh ideas. How the fuck can anyone say Hillary Clinton has a fresh idea, when she's recycling the same ideas that her husband ran on, and Walter Mondale before him, and Lyndon Johnson and Adlai Stevenson and Harry Truman and FDR before him? Same with the Republicans, with the Bushes, Reagan, Nixon, etc. How are we supposed to actually fix what's really wrong with America if our only options are repackaged ideas (products) that we know don't work, but we try them anyway because that's what we're taught to do? Answer: We aren't supposed to actually fix any problems; we're just supposed to think we're fixing them.

In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, "Don't blame me -- I voted for Kodos!"

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:53 PM 
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Bale, I don't particularly agree with some of your assessment, but I do share in your frustration. As I see it, however, that's all the more reason to get involved, particularly in down ballot elections.

In many cases, that's where you see more innovation, because you have new people coming in, working at a more localized level. The smaller the area, the easier it is to reach consensus and the sooner you see results.

Overcoming apathy and cynicism is one of the most difficult problems and cuts to civic education don't make it any easier.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:02 PM 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:05 PM 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:00 PM 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:40 AM 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:11 AM 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:33 PM 
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The fact that only 1 person scores a positive on the 'authoritarian' scale, considering some of the wingnuts on this board, indicates without a doubt this is seriously flawed.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:38 AM 
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While I agree with what you say Belzek, I still think the comparisons between us remain relatively accurate.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:51 PM 
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Most of us tend to lean very libertarian IMO, and that compass reflects that very well. From what I understand the average internet junkie tends to lean libertarian as well. The fact that the compass reflects this (rather than authoritarian) makes perfect sense to me.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:28 AM 
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Hate these things because the questions are so bad for a person who always tries to see all sides of the story (like me) and whose immediate answer is often to say 'it depends' - because, it does! Notwithstanding that however, the result of the analysis was fairly close to where I think I really should be (although I would have put myself a bit closer to center on the horizontal axis).


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:41 PM 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:42 PM 
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Hate these things because the questions are so bad for a person who always tries to see all sides of the story (like me) and whose immediate answer is often to say 'it depends' - because, it does!


I was thinking that exact same thing as I was taking the test

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:32 PM 
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Hate these things because the questions are so bad for a person who always tries to see all sides of the story (like me) and whose immediate answer is often to say 'it depends' - because, it does!


Most of us being intelligent people, I would imagine this is the case for most of us.

The point isn't *exactly* where you would stand on every minutia of a complex issue, it's where you tend to lean when the issue comes up, given little other extraneous circumstances.

When you read most of those questions, some kind of bias immediately popped into your head. That's what you go with.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:26 AM 
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Bumping this cuz I want more people on it. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:10 AM 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:25 AM 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:51 AM 
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Hmm, in a year I have grown more Libertarian:
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Very interesting to see I am closer to the pope than I would have thought.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:25 AM 
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Huh. I would not have considered myself to be more conservative than Rugen. I always figured I was the leftist amongst the two of us.

x = -3.12
y = -4.10

I didn't mind the standard Likert scale approach, however I would have liked to have the option of weighting each question based on how strongly I felt about it. I think being able to do that would have made me slightly closer to the origin on the x-axis (i.e. a little more economically right) and a bit further away on the y-axis, more towards libertarian.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:30 AM 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:28 AM 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:59 AM 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:38 PM 
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The survey hit me as pretty crappy and left leaning. The questions were phrased in a way that made pro-business sound evil.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:34 AM 
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What is left/right came up in the office today so I passed this test around. Decided to retake it myself and found that over a year later, I've moved about a point towards the right, and a point more libertarian.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:26 AM 
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Of those I've spoken with before, I'm closest to Venen. Food for thought, since I've agreed with Venen maybe three times, ever.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:22 AM 
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I think the other time I took this years ago I fell a little to the right and just about the same spot on the social.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:51 AM 
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Interesting...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:20 AM 
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Let's also not forget that Rome, at its peak, would make modern day fiscal conservatives cry because it was so "liberal"

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:18 AM 
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As an aside to that topic...is it just me, or does it seem like right-leaning people LOVE to reference history for everything?

Maybe it's just me, but every time I hear one of them talk it's, "Our Founding Fathers" and "Our ancestors" or "The ancient <insert civilization here>"

They also seem really fond of slightly-altered history books. The 5000-Year Leap is amusing.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:39 AM 
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I think comparisons to the distant past are moot because today's economic conditions are so different. As a general rule things usually repeat in cycles, but with the instant access to information these days, I think we are in for a completely new cycle (for better or worse I don't know).


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:57 AM 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:30 AM 
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Yeah...the thing is, they usually throw around grossly altered versions of that "history".


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:11 AM 
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wait, they show history programs on the history channel?

something other than pawn stars? when did this happen?

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