When you get past the random bugs in the game and the fact that most of it is spent on easy mode in the beginning, Dungeon Siege II is a beautiful game.<
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I don't remember the combat system in dungeon siege, but it can be annoying (hold attack button on the mouse to continue attacking a single click = one swing) but it isn't to bad<
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Single player rpg's for the PC are so fer and far between these days, so far this is a definate pick up. It looks like the replayability will also be high (I think you can go through at different ranks and shit is harder? haven't figured that out.. prolly if I read the manual but I didn't really... get that if you know what I mean)<
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This game isn't a sit down and play it through in a session either. If you go through and do all the quests you can act one will take 12 hours alone(three acts) at LEAST... I haven't been keeping total track.<
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Anyway so far I like it, it's not the best and it is somewhat linear but so are most rpgs.<
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GPG can fuck off. They left a lot of the same bugs in the game that existed in the first one. They also left out the ability to go to a higher resolution just like the first game. ( you can up the reso you just have to add a command line ref ) I wouldnt pay for this game unless it was like 20 bucks. <i></i>

The resolution thing is a minor inconvenience it can be changed anyway. Personaly I run the game in 1280x1024 all in game settings maxed, 16x Ansio / 4x AA Temporal and I don't think 1600x1200 would be much better since things would be too small anyway but I will try it tonight.<
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As for the bugs... What bugs? I crashed once and it may be because I left it running minimized for like 12 hour while I was at work. I didn't even crash while I was gone it's when I alt tabbed back while my bittorent client was closing and clearing its cache. Back in action baby! EQ - Finlainea - Paladin - Stromm - Fallen LegacyRetired - EQ2 - Finlainea - Dirge - Najena <i>Edited by: Finlainea at: 8/20/05 3:30 pm<
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There are a few documented Multiplayer bugs that have been in the game since DS1 was released. <i></i>

Ok i tried 3200x1200 splitted on 2 screens, work great but the separation between the 2 screen is too big to handle (2x 21" CRT hehe). A 30" Apple Cinema Display would be so great right now... Back in action baby! EQ - Finlainea - Paladin - Stromm - Fallen LegacyRetired - EQ2 - Finlainea - Dirge - Najena <i></i>

Do you know a place where I can educate myself about those bugs? Back in action baby! EQ - Finlainea - Paladin - Stromm - Fallen LegacyRetired - EQ2 - Finlainea - Dirge - Najena <i></i>

Let me see if I can find them. The board I was reading about it is down right now. <i></i>

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The game is pretty much an expansion for Dungeon Siege 1, with prettier graphics. If you enjoyed the first one, you will like this 2nd installment.<
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Story is nothing special. Evil man, evil and good artifacts, find artifacts, evil man powerful, random good guy dude getting informed, get artifact and slay evil man. At this point in gaming, who really cares anymore. Its all the same shit any way to you slice it. Story works and is still entertaining.<
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Gameplay, like I said is almost identical to Dungeon Siege 1. After years of not playing it, and playing mmorpgs instead I found it clunky and awkward. Turning up camera rotate mouse senesitivity and if you look in the very last tab in options, very last two selections you can turn on a one right click attack thing, meaning you dont have to bang your mouse each and every time you want to attack, one click autoattack. Also another option where your dudes will attack the nearest monster automaticly there too. These can make it a ton less tedious.<
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The addition of "Shrines and Chants" to me is pretty dumb. Pretty much you get a scroll with a mystic chant on it, and you type out the chant, "or go into your chants window and have the game type it out for you via macro". You do this for a buff that more often than not to me wore off too fast before you even got to the next set of beasts to slay. Also it appears you have two buff slots, and about 100 possible buffs to cast making you have to pick and choose which ones you put in your autocast slots.<
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A party in this one appears to be a must have. DS1 you could beat the whole thing solo. In 2 the monsters zerg worse than an alliance team of paladins. Fortunatly the exp spread seems to be decent here and your skills go up across the board pretty fast, so you dont have your archers constantly outskilling your melee and casters.<
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Probably gonna play with my friend tonight trough a VPN (because hmmm I errrr lost my CD key, yeah! thats it! I lost it)so we will see how it goes hehe.<
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I always just hit Z to pick everyting up after a fight and sort it out later at a vendor, if its magical "blue" I might look at it if im orgonizing potions but the only items I really pay attention to are rares uniques and sets.<
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Also using the latest ATI drivers and I don't have any problems i'm using .net 2.0 beta instead of 1.1, don't know if that can help you. Back in action baby! EQ - Finlainea - Paladin - Stromm - Fallen LegacyRetired - EQ2 - Finlainea - Dirge - Najena <i>Edited by: Finlainea at: 8/20/05 8:20 pm<
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Yeah this game isnt worth 50 bucks. <i></i>

I'm actually really happy with it. Its exactly what I wanted in a hack and slash game. They really put the Dungeon in Dungeon SIege, as there are many dungeons to plunder and explore.<
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I'm really liking it so far too. Up to level 46 right now on my single player game. The boss fights require you to pay attention a lot because if you stay still on them their abilities will completely destroy most everyone in your part.<
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I stayed up all night the first night playing it, other than that a couple hours here and there.<
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