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300 is very reasonable imo. <i></i>

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they also expect to make lots of money off of software sales to help recoup their losses. That is what they did with Xbox. <
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That and the supposed price points of the new games. <i></i>

Microsoft would lose about 75 bucks per Xbox360 sold at 300 bucks. That's a lower loss than either the PS2 or Xbox when they were launched. It might be lower than what they lose on Xbox's now.<
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This is a good move by Microsoft, now Sony has to follow suit. I'm not worried about Nintendo's pricing, since Nintendo never wanted to gouge us on their console in the first place. =p Prophion<
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If xbox360 is 299, i will probably buy one. More than that, and i probably will wait till the price drops to around that. Ditto for PS3. They are still "gaming" machines to me, and to most people.<
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I would be willing to go as far as $400 for an xbox 360, but no higher. Prophion<
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3DO, hahaha. <i></i>

All companies sell their consoles for less than it costs to produce them. They make money selling games, not consoles. You think Nintendo can make the Gamecube for $100?<
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Actually, all the consoles are profitable hardware wise right now. Ninentendo sold the Gamecube for 200 initially, and still had less loss per unit than either the PS2 or Xbox.<
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Quote:This is a good move by Microsoft, now Sony has to follow suit. I'm not worried about Nintendo's pricing, since Nintendo never wanted to gouge us on their console in the first place. =p All three are going into this knowing they have to do it; it's not like Microsoft invented the practice or anything. Tranthas Stormwalker<
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Oh yeah up to date price info, $299. That's kinda old news though. Marauder <!--EZCODE LINK START---<a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=96718" target="top">Harabakc</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--- - Goat<i></i>

I'd pay about 30 dollars for some magno-mitts. <i></i>

They also often sell features seperately to lower costs. If the PS3 is truly rumored to cost $499, they will have to find a way to reduce it to $299, most likely dropping something from the feature list.<
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I saw digg.com that this new price list which came from the L.A. times is incorrect, and that the lowest model will include a hard drive. I'll see if I can find the info.<
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