and they are marketing geniuses for making it so.

Whats the next big updater going to be? WowInterface? The other two that I can think of off the top of my head either don't have the mod support or aren't as trustworthy.

I see the need for the subscription somewhat. They have to pay the bills just like anybody else, and being one of the first go to sites for such a popular modding community like WoW has sure can rack up the bills.

What I do have a problem with is the "Premium Features" they offer you, in a sad attempt to make you feel good about having to pay for the update all buttion. Because let's face it. That's the only feature worth two shits in the whole bundle. Let's take a look.

Use the Curse Client to Manage Addons
---Update all Addons with one click
---Automatic Addon updates
---Ad-free experience

Update all addons with one button, and auto updates. Yes please. Add free experience, who gives a shit.

Faster Addon Downloads
Support the Addon Author Rewards Program
Ad-Free Curse.com Experience


Faster addon downloads? They are a few K at most. What the shit are you talking about? If you're talking about eliminating the need to click on each individual addon, click update, then scroll back down your list, then sure.

Support the addon author rewards program. Don't care. EULA prevents these guys from selling addons anyway. Curse's loophole just means the modders of the must have addons such as omen, bigwigs and shit like that get their 5 bucks a month and everybody else gets shit on.

Again the ads I give two shits about.

Support Curse
--Help us develop new features for the client and website
--Allow Curse to keep providing safe, secure Addons and to remain "gold advertisement" free
Help you do what? Money is going to make your web guys do better work? The Curse site is one of the worst ones I have ever seen to navigate. Pay you money so you don't sell out to the rangrangs? Yeah, that worked for Alakazam and IGN too.


Beta Key Giveaways
--Access to Premium-only beta key giveaways
--Get priority on all Curse beta key giveaways
--Access to Community Features
--Unique Avatar Frame on Curse.com
--Download and Manage Your Favorite Addons on Curse.com

Woo for useless bag swag. Betas are so god damn easy to get into using normal means. Sure as shit not worth paying 50 bucks a year just to be spam mailed a bunch of korean nutgrinder mmo betas.

To put it simply, it's like Xbox Live without all the good shit and only the ability to download updates.

Some of the stuff that Curse did I enjoyed. Very little of it. It's not Kotaku bad but it's been very hit and miss. I am kind of curious as to how Blizzard might respond, but really I don't think they could say or do anything in regards since they aren't really selling the addons themselves. And while I find updating each addon separately very annoying, it's not 50 bucks a year annoying. Or 30 bucks a year if you do the month to month thing.

Downloads are considerably slower somehow when not using a premium account. I paid for a year of premium just for the update all button and found it well worth it, updating single addons was slow, and the download speed blew chunks.

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World of Warcraft: Kallaystra, Gweila, Steakumn, Tarathia [ Feathermoon/Horde ]

It takes me like 1 minute - at most - from clicking the icon to closing the program when I update my addons without a premium account.

I think I'll live.

heh. How many addons do you run?

I think at last count, I had... uh...150 folders in my Addons directory.

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World of Warcraft: Kallaystra, Gweila, Steakumn, Tarathia [ Feathermoon/Horde ]

What the fuck? 150?

Uh. Vanamar is one of THOSE people.

DBM, Atlas loot, Recount, Class timer, Carbonite...I think thats all I ever use, takes at the most 15 minutes on a patch day or the day after patch day to update all of them

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Speaking of addons.

I seem to recall someone mentioning a wws/combatlog reminder. Anything good out there to remind you to turn it on and off? I don't suppose there are any that automate...?

WWS used to have an "official" addon that would turn on the combat log inside of raid instances and turn it off when you left, I think that addon is gone though.

I'm a huge "info-porn" guy. I also have class speecific addons for all of my characters, which quickly swells the addon numbers.

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World of Warcraft: Kallaystra, Gweila, Steakumn, Tarathia [ Feathermoon/Horde ]

It might be time for an intervention.

I knew another guy like that. He would install an addon to tell him how many addons he had installed, if he could find one that did so.

One day he started trying to get into Arena seriously and he posts a screenshot of his UI saying, "I'm having trouble keeping track of everything, help me with my UI!" and I think we all vomited a little when we saw it.

One guy in SC had a UI that would tell you when an item was looted. When he first had it going, it would spam:

Say
Raid chat
Group chat
Guild chat
Raid warning

and I think a few others. It was actually kind of comical, heh.

Loggerhead.

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Thanks Fu. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Part of the problem I have with the Curse(d) installer is the way they are getting add-on developers to be exclusive with Curse.

Their "advertising" about the premium preview was a joke.

WoWInterface is supposedly releasing a free updater soon that does most of what the paid Curse one does except for adds.

The problem with wowinterface is that most addons pretty much HAD to go exclusive to curse, because curse bought wowace.

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World of Warcraft: Kallaystra, Gweila, Steakumn, Tarathia [ Feathermoon/Horde ]

god vanamar I'm glad I'm not the only one. I also used to run FAR too many addons. I was like 'ooo shiny!' with them.

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Geez, 150? I even have several addons that I use for 2boxing and I'm not even close to that.

I think I have around 20-30 addons(excluding all the standard UI, Quartz, and Xperl multi-folder junk, of course), takes me all of maybe 5 minutes to update them all. I have a couple of them bookmarked, but it really doesn't take that long anyway.

Not to mention the majority of patches of late have not affected most of my addons, and I've had little reason to update.

Curse updater sucks. They have an ad driven site already, put some ads in the updater and call it a day.

I now feel inadequate with my 5 addon's I use.

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Jake Rivers - Senex Legio
Get off my Lawn alliance

The main reason I spent the whopping $29 a year was that curse had exclusive on a couple addons I loved, so wowmatrix was gimped. So for $29 dollars, it was a 1 year easy click updater.