"We have said that it will be coming out this year," Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime revealed in a conference call today. "I can tell you it's not coming in the July to September quarter."

Yeah, gotta agree with Sola there.

I'm seeing like 434,747 posts about DK abilities, DK starting area, DK this, DK that...and Mages are still sitting with Living Bomb as a 51-pointer.

And Hunters can tame Devilsaurs!!!

Heh.

They should just add +threat to defensive stance. If the bit about dual talent specs is true, they won't need the extra damage when they aren't tanking. They can spec into it.

This is more a problem with the way Blizzard handles threat, than the actual damage a prot warrior does.

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All white damage and abilities have basically had about 20% of their threat reduced due to the changes of salvation and the removal of the tranquil totem.

Threat generation for warriors right now is through the roof. shockwave is erally good i think it needs a 15 sec cool down not a 20, rage can stay where it's at, i got a ss of it doing 2k crit to each of 6 mobs, it's going to be a very powerful tool.

As far as the damage, all the warrior talents in all 3 tree's are being reworked, kind of like how they just did for the DK. Devastate will probably end up being 100% weapon damage instead of 50% after the change. At least that's what we're expecting.

Beta's coming along really well, I'm just concerned there's not enough testing atm, of course they claim they don't need it but we'll see.

I do have to admit though, that some of the changes that they're showing for WotLK are actually pretty well thought out and justified.

For example, my head almost burst when I saw a blue poster make a very logical and resonable post about the reasons they were removing dispel from Arcane Shot.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/3/8557212585-tranq-shot--bugged-or-wai.html

Link for joo.

We regret creating a dispel mechanic that also did damage, so we're re-designing that mechanic. It didn't fix any of Hunter's issues, anyways, and made them better against classes they were already good against (casters)

Glad to see it removed though...however I'm already starting to get concerned "yet again" because they're focusing on balancing abilities out for PvP purposes and not PvE.

Lake Wintergrasp>

* PvE elements are being added to this PvP Zone, for example the equivalent of Elemental Plateau in Outland is in Lake Wintergrasp.
* Siege Combat will be in both Lake Wintergrasp and the new Battleground (see below)
* Siege vehicles incude air combat with flying vehicles.
* You can destroy the buildings within Lake Wintergrasp and in the Battleground.
* Lake Wintergrasp will feature an attack/defend game type. Just like the Auchindoun Spirit Towers, when your faction holds a tower it will keep it for a certain amount of time and retain all the advantage for a few hours.
* Northrend "Spirit Shards" will be used to reward players. When your faction controls Lake Wintergrasp all the bosses in Northrend will start dropping them. You can then use these shards to buy rewards from a merchant, they won't be more powerful any other reward but just an alternative to other sources of equipement (like gearing up for PvP very quickly).
* "Wintergrasp Marks of Honor" will drop as well and will be redeemable for items through the honor system and other NPCs.
* Bridges will be used as "choke point" in the map, siege vehicles can't travel through water.
* The goal of Lake Wintergrasp is to capture the "Wintergrasp Keep", everything in that keep is destructable and you will have to break into the keep to capture the point.
* Players will be able to control stationnary cannons on each tower to defend the keep.
* Bridges are very large and very tall, players should be able to see them from anywhere in the map. They're also totally destructable as well.

What reasons do you have believe that they don't take these things into consideration?

Good. There's no reason for hunters to have that, which I said the minute we got it. I was happy they fixed the dead zone though that was unpopular with the other classes.

A lot of the testers were testing DKs because the level was still capped at 77. The last build that went up almost a week ago released the level cap, its up to 80 now...and a lot of leveling/testing of all the other classes has really begun.

I'm really excited about the hunter changes, especially for BMs.

Well I had heard a lot of the skills for other classes really weren't in yet too, plus the whole DKs being new thing.

I'm really excited about the hunter changes, especially for BMs.