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Is this a PvP server? I can only hope so! I've been playing since 11/23 and haven't had even one conversation like that on my server.. thank god! <i></i>

Is this the equivalent of "back in my day"?
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Being a Priest I get these kind of tells for groups several times an hour. I am just immune to it at this point. What is really pathetic about it is I am always in MC/Onxyia or doing PVP when I am online and I still get these tells anyway. Cant these cretins see that I am already grouped? Yet I still get waves of tells.<
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I haven't had a single encounter like this, either. Of course, I could probably count on one hand the number of open groups I was in on my Mage from level 1-60. It will be different on my Rogue since I am on a PVP server and I don't know anyone, however. <
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The thing that gets me, being unguilded, is the random guild invites. Sometimes I get a tell asking if I'd like to be in so and so guild, and I politely tell them, "No, I'm not looking for a guild atm". Those type of invites are fine. But the ones that really get me are when the box pops up asking me if I want to be a member of "The Uber Win" or some other moronic guild name. I don't know this person and I don't know anything about their guild, so...hell no I don't want to join. I swear I get about 3 a day of that type of thing. <
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I've had very few encounters of that type on Elune, though they've been about as regular as they were in EQ without being in a "largely recognized" guild. The one that sticks out the most in my mind was some guy asking me to join his guild while I was afk at the docks waiting on the boat. Boat arrived, I jumped on, replied with a "sorry, was afk; no thanks, not looking" message, and he said something along the lines of "was about to call you an @ss for not replying lol /whisp if you change your mind". Oh yeah, insult me for being afk, then say "call me if you change your mind". Right. /blist. ~Giliad, Ninja Priest of Elune (World of Warcraft)<
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My mains are on Thunderhorn on the Alliance side. Our small (20 some members) guild is a close knit group of long time gaming friends. We're casual (still have a handful of players that don't have lvl 60's yet), and I don't group out of guild very often. My new main alt is a priest that's just hitting his mid-40's, and even at that I've not ran into many idiots that I simply can't /ignore. <
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Well of course if the only people you ever deal with are from your guild, which is mostly composed of old people from lanys ,you're not going to have many idiots around. But that's basically the equivilant of playing on a LAN server with friends and then claiming the population of x game is awesome and anyone who's had a bad experience with it is an "idiot magnet." Anyway if it makes you feel better I was just saying I had a hard time beleiving you'd never had a bad experience, not litterally trying to accuse you all of lying, so. <i></i>

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inger Horde is the place to be. The only altercation so far I've had is declining a group invite from a dude named Captainkool. <
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I occasionally get invite-spam from newbies who don't realize they can be /ignored, and end up educating them. Other than that, no serious problems. Occasionally Hunters get into pissing contests with my Druid, under the impression that because their pet has Dash, they can take whatever mobs they want and I can't stop them. Flash nukes, how I love thee... They give up after about three rounds of that. Tranthas Stormwalker<
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Only problem I found on LB is the serious population, or lack thereof. Even being a Priest, I have sat night after night just looking for something to do. Got tired of running solo.<
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Other than that, good server. Alot of helpful people there. <i></i>