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Honestly, I don't have a certain "type". I tend to go out with pretty good looking girls, but that is usually a product of the crowd I hang out with. The whole "good looking people stick together" theory (I don't include myself in that category, I just have some pretty decent-looking sisters who have hot friends, yada yada yada). I don't normally have a girlfriend that's exclusive, we just go out, do our thing, and keep it simple. I used to love the friends with benefits thing, but now I am trying to get away from that, which doesn't always work out the way I hope (sadface). Too bad the true love of my life is a crazy drunk with an ex-husband who's a towtruck driver and a son who's a crazy, out-of-control kid that will probably fail 1st grade. It must be God's way of torturing me for not praying every night... <i></i>

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Bov you lost your touch in your little hiatus. <i></i>

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/randy

Wow, there's actually some funny shit in this one that I didn't recall. Thanks, Noojens =p

I cannot believe I did this five years ago. I laughed along with the rest of you

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