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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:06 AM 
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nah i just think he's full of shit, and i know he's still a pathetic fat fuck 30 year old loser who goes to some shitty technical school and thinks one day he'll make it big and be the next furor or tigole and land a job in the video game industry cuz he plays a ton of games.


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Says the pissant little file clerk.

I'll do you one better. I'll head home this weekend and dig through old clothes and shit and grab a pic or two. Then i'll take a picture of me in my old 48s. And some of now in 38s/40s


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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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I switched occupations, I'm teaching now. I don't expect you to know that though so it's ok to make that mistake.

I await for this weekend with bated breath.

PS: 40 isn't exactly "thin" so I'm looking forward to it. 32 is generally average for men who are in their weight range for their height.


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This is more amusing than the Khan v. Tyral 'I'll kick your ass in real life' thread. :)

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Bombshell!

Let's see. No Masters degree I'm betting, so what can he teach? Not college, in GA at any rate. Daycare? Should we send out an Amber Alert for Salt Lake City, if so? heh. Please God tell me he doesn't actually have access to impressionable young minds. I'm not sure I could sleep at night.

How can he be accomplished if he's switching occupations already?


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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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Yeah, I agree that Sky is a douchebag, but insulting someone's kid is pretty low.


You know the whole board hates you for being a piece of shit troll and you use a picture of your daughter as an avatar? Sorry, he was asking for it, and he got it.


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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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Of course he's going to welsh. Nothing except me going from a size 48 whale 10 years ago to a washboard ripped chest, ripping an Orange Country phone book in half longways could even come close to getting him to make good on it.

He says I'm a fatass. Truth of the matter is, I have no ass. I'm a barrel.


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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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Nice jokes Jox. I don't teach college, I'm K-12. I have a BA, and en route for certification. This is temporary -- I can teach while applying though. I simply didn't like being a file clerk / legal research, plus I make more. I have to save because I can't work fulltime during school.

I won't welch on the promise. If you're what is considered thin, as you gave up being "fat" / overweight, I'm outta here!


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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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PS: 40 isn't exactly "thin" so I'm looking forward to it. 32 is generally average for men who are in their weight range for their height.


Uh, actually, it can be. I'm about 6'4", 265lbs. I will NEVER, EVER fit into anything smaller than a 40. This has less to do with my weight, and more to do with my thighs. Years of military + basketball will do that. I'm saying its average, but the weight scales are fucking retarded and generally geared toward the Express for Men (God, I miss Structure) latte-drinking mother fuckers.


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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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you have a point there tali and i dislike latte. im more of a chai person.


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I'm slightly overweight (by like 15-20lbs) per my doctor, but I'm built like a barrel, and even in my athlete days in HS, I was wearing 38s. I'm comfortably wearing 40s now and that's not likely to change, even if I had gastric bypass and wasted away to nothing.

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Nice jokes Jox. I don't teach college, I'm K-12. I have a BA, and en route for certification. This is temporary -- I can teach while applying though. I simply didn't like being a file clerk / legal research, plus I make more. I have to save because I can't work fulltime during school.
THAT'S what you base your arrogant "I've accomplished so much, you're a scumbag and I'm awesome" point of view on? Getting a degree that anyone can get, not actually getting high in your field, abandoning your field, and being a K12 teacher? Really?


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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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Nice jokes Jox. I don't teach college, I'm K-12. I have a BA, and en route for certification. This is temporary -- I can teach while applying though. I simply didn't like being a file clerk / legal research, plus I make more. I have to save because I can't work fulltime during school.
THAT'S what you base your arrogant "I've accomplished so much, you're a scumbag and I'm awesome" point of view on? Getting a degree that anyone can get, not actually getting high in your field, abandoning your field, and being a K12 teacher? Really?


Huh? Abandoning my field? I'm teaching because it's something I enjoy and get pleasure out of and it was the first job I was able to find after I moved to Salt Lake City without a whole lot of effort that paid well. How high do you think people get in the law field without a degree or any training/certifications? I was a paralegal / legal research assistant due to my extensive experience in assisting attorneys, I have been a file clerk, I have been a courier and I've done servicing of subpoenas, etc. I've done just about "everything" you can do without a degree, saving being a "legal secretary" and fuck that, I'm not going to take all the stresses of an attorney's daily schedule without being paid like one. :P My main two fields during my employment have been education, and you guessed it, law.

It's funny you're knocking me for ... well I don't even know what. Lol. You accuse me of "abandoning" my field? How fucking absurd is that, dummy? If I abandoned it, wouldn't it then make sense that I drop out of law school? I've "obviously" got no intentions in working in the legal field... right? I'VE ABANDONED IT!!! (Yeah!)

PS: If anyone can get a bachelor's degree, how come only 1 in 4 adults in the US have one? :/ Way to try and knock down my accomplishment. FTL.

PPS: How many adults in the US have Juris Doctorates? :P

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Fuckhead. Go back to posting on the NAMBLA forums.


Ahh. I am fondly reminded of a recent Colbert Report featuring an interview with Dan Maffei. Haha, yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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Nice jokes Jox. I don't teach college, I'm K-12.


this is about the scariest thing I've heard in a while.. I can't believe you teach children.. those poor souls

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I don't dislike sky, I did at first. But now I take sky for what he is, so like alot of people around here, I ignore him when he's adding nothing. Don't feed him attention when he's being a dumbass is the best policy really. Because if you do, it ends up being this conversation we've had 7-10 times now. People complain about what he said, he says whatever it's the internet, and oh btw I'm in law school, rinse and repeat.


I remember a time when this could be said about he vast majority of the posters on these boards.... oh... wait... *smiles*

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Express for Men (God, I miss Structure)


Can you explain this? Isn't Express for Men Structure with new labels on the tags? They were / are owned by the same company after all...

I would think if you liked Structure, that you would also like Express for Men.


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Can you explain this? Isn't Express for Men Structure with new labels on the tags? They were / are owned by the same company after all...

I would think if you liked Structure, that you would also like Express for Men.


Hi frib.. I'm bored

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 Post subject: Re: Real Work Sucks
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Can you explain this? Isn't Express for Men Structure with new labels on the tags? They were / are owned by the same company after all...

I would think if you liked Structure, that you would also like Express for Men.


I'll put it this way. About 2 years ago, I walked into the store, where I had previously shopped OFTEN for jeans, sweaters, etc, and a kid about 5'2", 90lbs and dressed to make Bruno blush seriously looked at me, and said "Nu uh, no way, sorry." It wasn't a shithead response, just a real one, so I wasn't terribly offended. They don't cater to their old market, which was more...upscale urban we'll say. The largest size they carry now is MAYBE an XL...a European XL no less. And jeans? Sorry, but I'm not getting my fashion from the guys on Gossip Girl, and they know this. Thus, you won't see beyond a 34 there, with leg fittings to match the style (read: non-existent sack :P)

It's an entirely different store, with an entirely different line for a much different demographic.


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Nice jokes Jox. I don't teach college, I'm K-12.


this is about the scariest thing I've heard in a while.. I can't believe you teach children.. those poor souls


Why would you say something like that? If I was a poor teacher, I wouldn't have a job. If I wasn't teaching them and meeting my IEP goals, I wouldn't have a job. If I was teaching them subversive/harmful shit, I wouldn't have a job. Instead, I'm considered a "highly qualified" teacher, and will have received my license in < 6 months. (Normally takes around a year.)

I guess I'm just getting what I give. Whatev.


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Why would you say something like that?

You're a bad person, the less influence you have on people, particularly young ones, the better. Whether or not your employer realizes this is another matter altogether.

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Why would you say something like that? If I was a poor teacher, I wouldn't have a job. If I wasn't teaching them and meeting my IEP goals, I wouldn't have a job. If I was teaching them subversive/harmful shit, I wouldn't have a job. Instead, I'm considered a "highly qualified" teacher, and will have received my license in < 6 months. (Normally takes around a year.)
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People get fired for shit on their facebook and myspace all the time. Sky's posted enough pics of himself to get identified, and I'm pretty sure he's posting from work right now...

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let's see how givin fares with his pictures. if he's not full of shit then i wont be posting here anymore.

too bad we cant have a beer irl and you would see how much we'd get along. oh well. like i said looking at some posts i realize how it comes across, so i'm not surprised.


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Givin, post the pic, PLEASE! I want to see what the troll does.

Sky is TEACHING? OMG! What the hell is the world coming to? I am glad that I know he is in Utah so I don't have to worry about him getting near my kids. I wonder what he is teaching them "calling people N* and F*g is cool!" and "obama is our savior. Pray to the All Powerful Obama and your dreams will be answered"


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Yeah you are way out of line. Its incredibly offensive because beyond how I teach you also imply that I'm a terrible parent. Whatever. You guys win.

I'm not going to wait for Givin's pics. I'll just stop posting now. Its not worth having to deal with the shit flinging and defending myself. I get the point.

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Nice jokes Jox. I don't teach college, I'm K-12.


this is about the scariest thing I've heard in a while.. I can't believe you teach children.. those poor souls


Why would you say something like that? If I was a poor teacher, I wouldn't have a job. If I wasn't teaching them and meeting my IEP goals, I wouldn't have a job. If I was teaching them subversive/harmful shit, I wouldn't have a job. Instead, I'm considered a "highly qualified" teacher, and will have received my license in < 6 months. (Normally takes around a year.)

I guess I'm just getting what I give. Whatev.


*shock*

okay.. wait... so you for years have posted BS hateful and hurtful things but I post this rather boring and obvious slam and you get all butt hurt? You've said much worse to others (including me).

grow a sense of humor...

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Yeah you are way out of line. Its incredibly offensive because beyond how I teach you also imply that I'm a terrible parent. Whatever. You guys win.

I'm not going to wait for Givin's pics. I'll just stop posting now. Its not worth having to deal with the shit flinging and defending myself. I get the point.

04-09-09. Never forget.


Okay.. I've been kinda away for awhile. Did Sky get kidnapped by aliens? I'm really rather confused.

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I'm still posting the pic. I'm proud that I changed my life over the past decade. I am even more proud that I won't fit hunters visual image of me. He'll lawl and say i'm still fat.

I'm proud that I have the will and desire of life to work on my second degree. I remember talking about it once, asking people what they would like to see in games. You turned it into something about how you knew all these dudes in the biz.

You were a fucking file clerk. A coffee jockee. You knew some dudes who played Halo in between calling you to fetch a stack of paper.

I'm proud that I never flaunted anything here concerning it, or ever felt the need to. I freely admit I was a douche to a lot of people. You use it as a soapbox. You have zero humility.

Coming from someone who easily clocked in at 450 plus a decade ago, you don't know what fat means. I can continue to lose weight and tone myself if I wished. You will never be able to escape your online persona. You say it's just something you do, just for laughs or whatever. No. It is as much a part of you as how you act in front of people.

The sooner you realize that, the sooner you will stop being asked to be banned, make new IDs to mask yourself, come back for more over and over. Me? I've never changed. I see something I disagree with, I attack it. I want to dismantle it and break it apart. I live with this, day in and day out when I deal with people. I've been wrong and I have been right.

I would never have a beer with you. I would smash the can into your forehead because I know your persona is as real as it gets. As real as mine. And you're just as big of a piece of shit as I am. I remember telling Bovinity once how I hated him based on his view of EQ PvP. God how fucking petty.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:47 AM 
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Going back to the whole "Real World Sucks" thing, I've been quietly tossing around the idea of trying stand-up.


Politician to comedian is certainly a natural progression.

"Change you can believe in" now that's a knee-slapper. Just avoid the special olympian bowling jokes and you'll do fine. (and don't fall asleep on stage)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:49 AM 
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04-09-09. Never forget.


The party we throw every year celebrating your departure will prevent us from ever forgetting this day.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:24 PM 
For the old school!
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So, since he willingly left, can we ban every IP he's used to prevent his next cancerous re-emergence, and delete every account he's touched?

Can we?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:29 PM 
Trolling like there is no tomorrow!
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no just leave it. He is reading what we post here. He didn't say that he would leave the board. He said that he would stop posting. One day the troll inside him will make him forget that he doesn't post here. That day is also when we bash him more. I bet it won't be too long before he is back here. I am not looking forward to it, but will enjoy the absence of his idiotic of inane and utter bullshit posts.

Over under is six weeks.


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Hm. I won't take the bet, simply because by betting where it can be seen will alter the odds.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:04 PM 
I schooled the old school.
I schooled the old school.
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I wonder who will be the first person to post the "the boards needed the activity" meme that was posted after Dr X got chased off.



I'll be that person. What else would you expect, Joxur? :p

I'm always sad when I see someone go because of butthurt. I think he's being a little pussy, but at the same time I don't like seeing it.

And perhaps we shouldn't pretend it's "just because of this one post from Givin." He IS a douche, at least on these boards, and I'm not arguing that. But we also pile on him almost 100% every time he posts, and guess what? Sometimes those posts aren't that bad. It's just, the "oh it's sky-- fuck him!" mentality occasionally running amok.

Go ahead and pile on me now. I won't leave :p


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Fribur wrote:
I think he's being a little pussy

Fribur wrote:
I think he's being a little pussy

Fribur wrote:
I think he's being a little pussy

Fribur wrote:
I think he's being a little pussy

Fribur wrote:
I think he's being a little pussy

Fribur wrote:
I think he's being a little pussy


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Cmon man, this is nothing as far as bashing goes(anyone remember some of my old 10-page shitsling fests?). Don't be a Dolalin.


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Trolling like there is no tomorrow!
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maybe we can have an emoticon :xsky: that shows either a douchenozzle or a smiley in a Klan hood.


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You push, you get pushed back. It's such a simple concept, Fribur. A predictable reaction to a premeditated act.


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