You know, these telecom companys do pretty much nothing on fighting oversea telemarking scam artists who defraud there customers all day long every day.

I do not agree to having to pay phone bills that you did not create.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090130/bell_fraud_090130/20090130?hub=SciTech

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Yeah. Not really. If corporate customers want to implement a voicemail system, they need to implement a security protocol to manage that system. Sorry, no sympathy here.

I have to agree with Elessar if it was the own companies voicemail they were providing and not a third party they should train their employees better on protecting passwords.

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Indeed.

In addition, I would add that your source being Canadian does not help this cause. Needless to say, CTV is not the first place I would go to find journalistic integrity.

Agreeing with Elessar and Cak. It's not the phone company's responsibility to ensure your personal/corporate voicemail systems are secure. You get breached, it's your fault, and if charges are incurred that's your fault as well.

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The article clearly states "third party systems and third party providers"

how is this the phone company's fault in any conceivable way?

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That story isn't very informative.

The voicemail system was run by Bell. It was their own system being breached, probably from a weak PIN number somewhere, and these guys got access to the company's voicemail accounts.

Link? That story implies otherwise.

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Who would you suggest as a reliable source for news about Bell Canada outside the Canadian press?

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Who would I suggest as a reliable source for news about North Korean military infrastructure outside the North Korean press?

Proximity does not always = good journalistic quality. More source information potentially, but not that.

That being said, I was half-kidding. Dolalin was correct in that the story on that page was quite lackluster.

And they won't if they don't have liability.

Although I agree with everyone who said that third party solutions basically impugn the notion that the phone company should be held responsible, I still think your point is valid.

If the phone company is a monopoly with no other competition and they have no liability for fraudulent calls (and, in fact, profit from them), they have no incentive to improve their own security. And you have nowhere else to turn.

If they had competition, they might at least reduce the bill to their own cost, if not remove it entirely, for fear of losing the customer.

Telco monopolies are fucking horrible. I don't think anyone would argue that. This is just a poor example why heh.