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 Post subject: Rant: Fucking Bank
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:32 AM 
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Reported a lost ATM/Debit Card Nov 4th (Election day!)

Well my replacement arrived finally today

I've been a member of this bank for 30 years

They fucking spelled my name wrong (Last name) Mother fuck

Called and they changed it, at least I don't have to go back in to order another one (I had to on the 4th).

But it'll be after next week that I get it *mutters*

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BTW I bitch because I'm one of those don't carry cash just use atm/debit card on everything, thus the inconvenience.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:50 AM 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:33 PM 
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I just deposited a check into my bank account last Friday and they have not yet released the funds, even though it should have been verified instantly because it was drawn off of one of their own accounts.

After I put my check into my account, I was able to access the funds because they said it'd be verified instantly since it was drafted off of one of their accounts. So I go and spend money and buy a few things, then the next day the check had a hold placed on it.

Now because of that, I'm negative six and a half thousand in my account. In the meantime, they've also hit me with overdraft charges. Lamesauce.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:57 PM 
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Did the accuont it was suppose to be instantly withdrawn from have the funds it in ? :p

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:16 PM 
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yeah we're all good now. it was an insurance company, big nationwide one. we're set. ;)


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:00 AM 
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Actually I found the card last week which had put me at ease, I wasn't sure how I would've lost it "outside".

Destroyed it though, as it was useless.


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Have any of you guys seen the commercial where the bank manager comes out with the employees, and tells everyone to get on the ground? Then proceeds to rob the customers. All the employees have ski masks on.

It's a personal favorite of mine:)

The fee's we charge for stuff is just stupid, but I guess the markup on a lot of things is out of proportion too. Pick your poison.


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Have any of you guys seen the commercial where the bank manager comes out with the employees, and tells everyone to get on the ground? Then proceeds to rob the customers. All the employees have ski masks on.

It's a personal favorite of mine:)

The fee's we charge for stuff is just stupid, but I guess the markup on a lot of things is out of proportion too. Pick your poison.


What markup?

I have my own retail store, and the markup barely pays the staff wages and overhead.

If it was inline with the banks service fee's, I would not have to work 6-7 days a week.

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 Post subject: Re: Rant: Fucking Bank
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:35 PM 
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In all seriousness Mira, what kind of retail store do you have? It's really interesting to see what the affects of the US economy is having on our neighbor countries, and other various parts of the world.

Some retail businesses have a very low profit margin due to the kind of products that they sell. I'd imagine in some form or another, that is also being stymied by the world economy. Some retailers ont he other hand, are very profitable due to being diverse int heir products, and services offered. I have a customer who sells little truck trinkets. Ford stickers, key chains, small food items, but also does engine work on tractor trailers, box trucks, and other large commercial vehicles. To even further diversify himself, they also do body work.

His profit margins are absolutely sick. The guy is cash flowing at almost 2 to 1 on the business, and is pushing 2.5 globally.

Commercial D & I businesses are flourishing under the right circumstances right now too. Not many lenders are even doing these due to the market. Those who can get them, can get them at an awesome rate. Something like 5.5% for a 3, 5, 7 balloon with a 20 year amortization schedule.

As for the fee's from banking in general though, I agree, they are too high, and really do take advantage of people. I've set up my income stream to be based more off of spread, and other fee based products that we offer like Commercial Paper Sweep Accounts, Merchant Processing Services, and Online Banking. That way I can be more liberal to my consumer customers when they have an issue and have overdrawn their accounts.

The bank I work for charges $19.00 per item when you overdraw for the first "situation" which can be a total of 6 items maximum. The second "situation" ramps up to $35.00, with the same other terms, and the final step is $37.50 from that point on. Maximum 6 per day. The computer system automatically charges the customer if they are even .01 overdrawn.

So, they have tailored it to not be as bad for someone who has a one off situation, and needs some help, but it get's more expensive after that.

Personally, I work in a very bad part of town that is really run down, and my customers need help from time to time. So, I try my best to give that to them, but still make my own money for the bank in other ways.

Unfortunately, not all managers treat their branch as a business of their own, and really doesn't care how the community is doing around them. In the end they will fail. Without customers coming to our office, we are dead, and don't have a job.

If I waive 1 of the maximum overdraft fee's of $37.50, I have to do about a $23,000.00 installment loan with a spread of 2% to make up for that income in that particular month. So, when someone overdraws 6 times at $37.50 a piece, and wants them all waived, I would have to do $138,000.00 in balance bearing loans to keep up. That simply does not happen in my market.

Such is life though. I'm off my soapbox now!

What kind of store is that again Mira? haha

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 Post subject: Re: Rant: Fucking Bank
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:31 PM 
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Beyond the cosmetic aspect, why do you care what name is on your debit card? Or does it work differently down there or something? I've never -ever- in 12 years had someone card me for an interac payment.


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I did finally get the card the day after thanksgiving.

It's a Visa Debit card, and I use it as a credit card I have to sign for purchases/etc in the name that matches the card. I assume since my signature confirms a legal contract of sorts, having the name wrong would be some sort of fraud? Not quite sure, but it'd be a big annoyance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rant: Fucking Bank
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Banks are one of the largest topics on the rip-off report.

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It's hard to find good service at a bank anymore...


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most banks wont convert your change to bills unless you have an account and/or pay a fee

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Yea, we'll do it if the person is reasonable about it. We don't charge for it unless it's crazy, like someone just broke their piggy bank from when they were a kid 30 years ago, and the change is unwrapped.

Some people are like, "What do you mean you won't take my change?!". I just think, what the shit, it's going to take us 4 hours with three people working on it to get it all fucking wrapped asshole, go do it yourself!

You figure 3 tellers making $10.00 (low end) an hour is $30.00 an hour. 3 hours of working on it, I should charge you about $105.00 or so to do it. (That's the part where people get pissed) haha

While we're ont he topic of people wanting us to do stupid shit, how about the lady who came into my office, and was dead serious about me using the tattoo on her forearm as ID because the police had taken hers' the week before. Her argument was that it had her name on it...

I just walked away laughing....

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I wrapped like 100 bucks in change one time and the bank made me unwrap all of it for their machine.

I am happy to wrap change if the bank will take it, but most of the time they will not.

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Some people are like, "What do you mean you won't take my change?!". I just think, what the shit, it's going to take us 4 hours with three people working on it to get it all fucking wrapped asshole, go do it yourself!

You don't have machines that do that? What year is it again?


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Shit, I wish we had machines for that stuff. Fortunately (Unfortunately) I work for one of the most conservative banks in the country. Our equipment sucks (very low end broadband systems). We don't pay much on the hour compared to other banks (our bonuses are really nice if we perform well).

On the upside to all that, we have continued to increase our dividend through all of this crap going on in the economy, and are widely considered the top bank in the country right now. We have actually been increasing our staffing in my market, adding to marketing, and renovating all of our branches. Job security is a nice thing, especially now.

Draguun, they were being assholes.

Now that I think about it, we have three or four coin machines in our region. They are only at the very large offices. It's not considered a needed expense.


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Pretty sweet across the board actually haha. Heaven forbid the bank loses money!

DVR monitoring with motion activated cameras, remote access, and GPS.

Good stuff.

If people are going to rob someone, they should go elsewhere.


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I just finished watching Maxed Out on Netflix instant, talk about fucking banks. I know a lot of it is Michael Moore-ish sensationalism but I feel it conveys its point pretty effectively.


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Nah just a combination of things, had to put down a security deposit and first month rent for a house, pay a moving truck, get some car repairs done, misc. shopping for winter clothes (which we have none of, being as we're in AZ and all) and some Christmas stuff.


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USAA Rules, if you can (only military or dependants) go with them, the only suck part is they have no branches........ lol!

But yeah another option is having a credit card, its actually smarter than using your debit, especially with fraud and other protections. I'd hate to see someone have direct access to my bank account.

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Regulation E. The fraud prevention is from Visa, and the government.

People are stupid in general though. So it happens a lot. Most of the time it isn't someone getting hacked online, it's people misplacing, or leaving their card somewhere.


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hahaha

My husband had to go up north with a friend to represent him in a union issue. He has automatic billpay, and they fucked up and paid one credit card twice. (Friend, not spouse). And FAILED to pay one credit card. The friend has really tight finances because both he and his wife are still rebuilding from job losses about 5 years ago. Meanwhile...the double bill was MUCH larger than the one they failed to pay. So his account was overdrawn. No problem, he has overdraft protection.

Except it's on the card they DID NOT PAY...and so the card refused to overdraft it.

And they nailed him on a shitload of fees, and whatnot.

AAAAANNNNNDDDD to get it all straighted out they needed him in person so he had to find a branch, while out of town. So he dragged my husband an hour to the nearest one so he could get the clusterfuck somewhat unfucked, and transfer some money over so he could take out cash with his ATM.

And it still wasn't unfucked because the credit card paid twice automatically applies it, they don't give a shit if the payment was by mistake. Which isn't a problem unless you're on a really tight budget, as they are and as many people are today.

We use Wells Fargo. No problems at all. I love my bank. :reindeer:

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