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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:25 AM 
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Hijacked Iranian Ship was a Dirty Bomb
Meant for Israel on Yom Kippur

http://shiratdevorah.blogspot.com/2008/10/hijacked-iranian-ship-was-dirty-bomb.html

On August 21st, 2008, the MV Iran Deyant, 44,458 dead weight bulk carrier was heading towards the Suez Canal. As it was passing the Horn of Africa, about 80 miles southeast of al-Makalla in Yemen, the ship was surrounded by speedboats filled with members of a gang of Somalian pirates who grab suitable commercial ships and hold them and their cargos and crews for ransom. The captain was defenseless against the 40 pirates armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades blocking his passage. He had little choice other than to turn his ship over to them. What the pirates were not banking on, however, was that this was no ordinary ship.

The MV Iran Deyanat is owned and operated by the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines (IRISL) - a state-owned company run by the Iranian military that was sanctioned by the U.S. Department of the Treasury on September 10, shortly after the ship's hijacking.
According to the U.S. Government, the company regularly falsifies shipping documents in order to hide the identity of end users, uses generic terms to describe shipments to avoid the attention of shipping authorities, and employs the use of cover entities to circumvent United Nations sanctions to facilitate weapons proliferation for the Iranian Ministry of Defense. The MV Iran Deyanat departed Nanjing, China, July 28, and, according to its manifest, planned to sail to Rotterdam, where it would offload 42,500 tons of iron ore and "industrial products" purchased by an unidentified “ German client”. The ship has a crew of 29 men, including a Pakistani captain, an Iranian engineer, 13 other Iranians, 3 Indians, 2 Filipinos, and 10 Eastern Europeans, stated to be Albanians.

The MV Iran Deyanat was brought to Eyl, a sleepy fishing village in northeastern Somalia, and was secured by a larger gang of pirates - 50 onboard and 50 onshore. The Somali pirates attempted to inspect the ship's seven cargo containers but the containers were locked. The crew claimed that they did not have the "access codes" and could not open them. Pirates have stated they were unable to open the hold without causing extensive damage to the ship, and threatened to blow it up. The Iranian ship’s captain and the engineer were contacted by cell phone and demanded to disclose the actual nature of the mysterious “powdered cargo” but the captain and his officers were very evasive. Initially they said that the cargo contained "crude oil" but then claimed it contained "minerals." Following this initial rebuff, the pirates broke open one of the containers and discovered it to be filled with packets of what they said was “a powdery fine sandy soil” ....

Within a period of three days, those pirates who had boarded the ship and opened the cargo container with its gritty sand-like contents, all developed strange health complications, to include serious skin burns and loss of hair. And within two weeks, sixteen of the pirates subsequently died, either on the ship or on shore.

News about the illness and the toxic cargo quickly reached Garowe, seat of the government for the autonomous region of Puntland. Angered over the wave of piracy and suspicious about the Iranian ship, authorities dispatched a delegation led by Minister of Minerals and Oil Hassan Allore Osman to investigate the situation on September 4. and they witnessed some of the deaths due to exposure to ‘something on that ship.’


The Somali pirates initially set the ship's ransom at $2 million and the Iranian government provided $200,000 to a local broker "to facilitate the exchange." The $2 million dollar ransom agreement, which was supposedly secured on September 6th, never took place for reasons unknown. After September 10th, sanctions on IRISL were applied specifically because the company was said to engaged in illicit operations on behalf of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Serious negotiations were broken off completely. Iranian authorities subsequently denied that it agreed to the price nor had paid any money to the pirates. Nevertheless, after sanctions were applied to IRISL on September 10, Osman says, the Iranians told the pirates that the deal was off. "They told the pirates that they could not come because of the presence of the U.S. Navy." The region is patrolled by the multinational Combined Taskforce 150, which includes ships from the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet. Subsequently, it was disclosed that the U.S. government had offered to pay $7 million to the pirates to "receive entry permission and search the vessel." Officials in the Pentagon and the Department of State have consistently refused to comment on the situation.


The exact nature of the cargo remains officially a mystery but officials in Puntland and Baidoa are convinced the ship was carrying weapons to Eritrea for Islamist insurgents. "We cannot inspect the cargo yet," Osman said, "but we are sure that it is weapons."
The US Navy (and the French and the Russians) have been hove to off the coast of Eyl, going anywhere once released, it will be seized once it gets to sea. The specific clauses that have been approved in both the UN and in Congress would allow the US Navy to seize the ship under the suspicion clause. The claims that there are weapons onboard, and the possibility there might be chemical weapons, has insured there is at the very minimum, an inspection of the ship by outside authority will be mandated. At this writing, the MV Iran Deyanat is at anchor, watched closely by American, French and Russian naval units.

Although American intelligence and government sources are maintaining a strictly observed silence, the same does not apply to the Russians and so it is that we learn the real story of the MV Iran Deyanat. She was an enormous floating dirty bomb, intended to detonate after exiting the Suez Canal at the eastern end of the Mediterranean and in proximity to the coastal cities of Israel. The entire cargo of radioactive sand, obtained by Iran from China (the latter buys desperately needed oil from the former) and sealed in containers which, when the charges on the ship are set off after the crew took to the boats, will be blasted high into the air where prevailing winds will push the highly dangerous and radioactive cloud ashore.

Given the large number of deaths from the questing Somali pirates, it should be obvious that when the contents of the ship’s locked cargo containers finally descended onto the land, the death toll would be enormous. This ship was nothing more nor less than the long-anticipated Iranian attack on Israel. Not the expected rocket attacks (which could be intercepted by the Israelis) but an even more deadly and unexpected attack by sea.. It is very interesting to note that the Israeli government has in the past few weeks, been loudly demanding that the United States establish a naval blockade of Iran.

The reason for this blockade would be to prevent any more Iranian ships with deadly cargos from attacking either Israel or other targets from the sea.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:43 AM 
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It is interesting, and potentially scary. Having said that though, the update on that site has all the earmarks of a conspiracy theorist: no proof, lots of innuendo, forecast of dire betrayals to come. Also, I personally believe that Bush would jump on any real reason to bomb Iran prior to leaving office, or at least turning a blind eye while Israel does it with US-supplied weapons. He may be waiting until Nov. 5 though.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:02 AM 
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The updated article from the 20th is even more entertaining...

http://shiratdevorah.blogspot.com/2008/ ... -pt-2.html

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:45 AM 
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Yeah, I believe the proper forum for this post would be the bored room.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:35 AM 
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it should be obvious that when the contents of the ship’s locked cargo containers finally descended onto the land, the death toll would be enormous.


That just isn't true. It might raise background radiation in the area for a few years, but that's it.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:05 AM 
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Yeah, I believe the proper forum for this post would be the bored room.


lol, agreed


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:49 AM 
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Without knowing how hot a mineral is, it's not possible to tell what level of damage would be done by its dispersal.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:39 AM 
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No, but look at the situation.

A boat full of cargo containers is a less-than-ideal dirty bomb. If and when it was to explode, just think, are ships usually engineered to channel an explosive force straight into the sky? No...I'd wager most would be ejected at less-than-optimal angles, causing the radioactive material to land a short distance away in the ocean.

This whole thing as described sounds like a huge hack-job, I'd honestly be surprised if it killed a single person. Its only real effect would be to cause mass panic.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:32 PM 
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A cargo ship is a big steel bathtub, with water underneath which does not compress or shift quickly compared to the shockwave. It has no choice but to go up in a fan. I've seen 3/4" metal ball bearings hurled outwards to about 5km, and the wind can't really carry those as it could dust.

The thing that makes it sound less credible is that if it's radioactive enough to kill someone in 2-3 days people would probably have been getting sick without the containers being opened.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:20 AM 
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I'm afraid I have to disagree with your interpretation of physics there, Sarissa. Dust motes would lose kinetic energy faster than your ball bearing, in an atmosphere. You'd be lucky to get that dust a whole thousand feet away from the explosion just by intial force (assuming only sufficient explosive to project a decent number of ball-bearings 4000 feet). The wind would actually enact far more movement of dust than the explosion would, by the time it settled.


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I simply implied that an explosion that carries metal a given distance will carry dust a might bit further. I said nothing regarding the mechanism.

In addition to creating a current of wind the explosion creates a void. The dust within and on the periphery of this void is impelled by the detonation to about the same point as anything else. When air rushes back in to fill this void it adds further impulse. This air rushes in from the ground level and heads upward due to the heat differential and residual impulse carried by the shockwave. That's why any significant amount of high explosives will create a mushroom shaped cloud. By the time this effect occurs, heavier objects are already well outside the blast zone.

So there is a huge ring of dust very high up in the sky. The wind coming in off the sea carries it from there. Whether that height is called its PE or not is up to the person looking at it.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:09 PM 
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It's still horrendously unlikely this would have done anything. It sounds more like scare-mongering.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:44 AM 
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If they had set it off anywhere near a large city there would be long term health effects for years to come. No it wouldn't have killed anyone as quickly as the pirates who were directly exposed but it would have caused a local panic and a massive evacuation. Maybe they figured if they poisoned the land the jews would just leave and not come back. Seems like a strange plot.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:35 AM 
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sure glad our new President doesn't think Iran is a threat...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:09 AM 
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Where did he say Iran posed no threat? I never once heard him say that... to the contrary, he's stated that Iran having Nuclear Weapons is unacceptable...

You must be reading some bizarre newspaper...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:16 PM 
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Skycrasher, with how much time you spend on these boards, I thought you would be able to read sarcasm by now.

Sarcasm Hint #351

Replies that take the subject (xxx) and comfirm a premise (yyy) from a previous statement can be sarcasm and you should read again carefully instead of making a sandinvinge post:

Especially when using key words such of these:

It's a good thing xxx isn't yyy
Sure glad xxx doesn't yyy
Yeah...xxx .....yyy
Too bad xxx didn't yyy

But hey maybe you found a secret weapon against sarcastic posts! Fail to understand sarcasm - take everything they say at face value.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:23 PM 
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your post sounds like something joxur or kulamiena would post


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sure glad you can read sarcasm...


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haha, I wasn't really trying to prove this point Sky, but your post got me into checking it out and look at this Gem:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vaG6s05MKeM&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vaG6s05MKeM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>


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bah! no embed?

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf=ht ... fs=1&hl=en


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haha, I wasn't really trying to prove this point Sky, but your post got me into checking it out and look at this Gem:


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Traxor apparently missed the "youtube for dummies" post. HTML doesn't work on the forums, that's why there's a handy "youtube" BBCode.


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Geez, the election's over and we're still having this conversation?


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