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Are you still bitter that the Wings got swept in '95? <i></i>

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Gratz Alito! I wonder if his wife will be sitting with the first lady tonight. <i></i>

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At a quick glance out of the corner of my eye, I keep thinking Abysmul's avatar is Jay M Bear's. <i></i>

That's my dorf priest in WoW. He's studly, in a non uber guild sort of way. <i></i>

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