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Haha Tree huggers international, in order to maintain that hunting license they purchased they have to actually hunt. So they will hug a grizzly bear and shot a sheep or a mountain goat, seems kind of like biting off your nose to spite your face.<
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I hate fucking tree huggers LoL. We had a bunch of them here in Connecticut try to fuck up a deer hunt, they were stupid enough to enter the hunt area and a couple almost got shot. The law requires that I wear a minimum of 200 square inches of
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Bambi is going in the oven as soon as I finish posting this, the hunt was successful inspite of the tree huggers, there are more damn deer in this area then the space can handle, these nitwits would rather the deer slowly starve to death than be killed by a hunter. <i></i>

It's actually illegal to disrupting hunting around here, some prick from the humane society actually stole one of our dogs once and threw the tracking collar into a 3 foot deep creek thinking that would kill the signal. But he was a dumb fuck, and no it didn't kill the signal, and we found the dog. He's lucky he didn't get arrested(my dad decided that he'd let is slide once but he was fucked if he ever did it again), the Sheriff said if he ever gives us trouble again to let him know.<
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Also, bitching about the population of an animal that has a multiple square mile range per animal past a certain point is pure idiocy. They only rarely congregate and that's only under special circumstances, for instance salmon runs, and even then they don't get along with each other all peachy keen.<
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Oh yeah, the article mentions a "mutant white bear," haha, dumbasses, ever heard of something called color phasing? Or albino for that matter. Marauder Harabakc Goat<i></i>

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I don't care if you hunt and actually use the animal for food and fur, or if it's a population problem, or whatever...but if you kill an animal just so you can put the fucking head on your wall, you're an ass. <
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Well, that portion I can't really related to. The only things I would shoot without even considering using them for food would be crow and groundhog. The groundhog thing is mostly just a favor for my neighbor because he keeps cattle and horses and the groundhogs get in his fields. Marauder Harabakc Goat<i></i>

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Quote:I don't care if you hunt and actually use the animal for food and fur, or if it's a population problem, or whatever...but if you kill an animal just so you can put the fucking head on your wall, you're an ass.<
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As a hunter, I only kill that which I will eat, it is a waste of a good animal just to take its head to mount it on your wall, I really don't consider trophy hunters sportsmen. Of course not all hunters are sportsmen either.<
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Hell, before we retired my wife and I raised Aberdeen Angus cattle and a few Bison. I lost a couple of bison to asshats who hunted on my farm without permission, also had one Black Angus Bull shot. I never found out who killed the bison but the guy that shot the bull actually came to the house and said he had had an accident.<
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He offered to pay for the dead bull and almost dropped dead himself when he found out how much I would have gotten for him at slaughter. He was man enough to own up to his fuck up so I never charged him what I could have. Of course he didn't get the carcass either, but I had one hell of a job getting that dead animal up to the barn, it weighed a little over 2200 pounds.<
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Since it is illegal to have a gun in D.C. the city occasionally has to hire professionals to thin the deer in Rock Creek Park. Come to think of it, it's probably better having professionals hunt in the city park than amateurs. "I am not a ranger, but I have played <
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That's the problem, no guns in D.C. People need them to thin the political herd. <i></i>

Sure there are guns in D.C. just none owned by hunters of animals. Just by hunters of other people. Wakkagud Ondahed<
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Even D.C.'s handgun ban is absolutely, positively against the Constitution and you'll see how quickly the illegal, unconsitutional "law" vanishes as soon as the cases make it to appeals court.<
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What's funniest to me is that DC is probably the most liberal city east of California and consistently leads the nation in murders. Ok, not funny. Sad. Sad that people are so misguided in their sincere, heartfelt desire to try and do some good and only achieving negative results.<
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This is also a fairly good verification of the idea that criminilizing gun ownership means only criminals will have them.<
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Quote: That's the problem, no guns in D.C. People need them to thin the political herd.<
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It's called being facetious Ark. Reading comprehension is tough for you isn't it. Keep at it junior. <i></i>

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I have killed deer before , but I've never went hunting :/ Thanks to deer I am on a first name basis with the guys down at the body shop.<
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I must agree with the rightwingers in this instance. Hunting for food couldn't be more natural. Some of those "environmentalists" are just chock full of crack if they don't think its ok to kill off excess critters. With most native carnivores hunted and driven back from human settlement, many animals must be thinned as part of sound range management policy. And when I come down from my self-righteousness...Its disturbingly fun to pop a prarie dog with a .22. I'm still all for gun control. =p Vote Quimby! Masteraen/Wulolen<i></i>

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Just to set the record straight, real environmentalist tree hugger folk don't give two shits about deer hunting. They encourage it. Large deer populations are a by-product of the loss of old growth forests, at this point they are no better then rats. They can be extraordinarily destructive in an environmental sense.<
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They do care about trophy hunters going after already low populations of grizzly and other low population species just so they can put a head on their wall.<
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What's wrong with have a deer head mount as a trophy? I don't eat the damn head or the antlers. You can still harvest the animal for and have some taxidermy work done as well. <i></i>

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Yes, I know that's the point but I hunt and I’ve never known anyone to kill a deer simply for the mount. I think “trophy hunter" is nothing more than a stereotype. None of the hunters I know waste their kills. I’m not a big fan of taxidermy myself, but mainly because of the cost involved in having good work done. But I have some friends that have plenty and I personally don’t see anything wrong with it. <i></i>

Im a hunter and make no apologies for it. But the type of things ive seen are ing at times. I was scouting pre season for a good location to setup when I came across a pit. It had about 5 seperate carcasses in it, all fresh, including one fawn. There may have been more, I hope you understand why i wasnt eager to climb in and do a thorough count. The weird thing is, I cant tell if they even butchered them partially. All I can think of is they were just assholes out to slaughter deer. It didnt even look like they had had antlers removed, or choice cuts of meat sliced off, it looks like they were slaughtered, dragged, then dumped for the hell of it. Those are the kind of incidents that make those loony enviros hate all hunters even more. Traab "Love Machine" Fellhammer<
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Most hunters aren't trophy hunters. However, there ARE trophy hunters. What we're talking about are those who that do hunt big game specifically for the heads. Most trophy hunters aren't going out for deer...they're going for lions and tigers and bears, oh my!<
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That's what these people are trying to prevent. I'm sure that some people that kill these grizzlies up north eat the meat, but from what i've read, most just want the heads. They don't care about the bear meat, they just want a trophy for their wall.<
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Bear meat is quite tasty. Ill give you the lions and tigers part though. No idea if either is edible. People who just hunt for trophies are idiots too imo. Seriously, what a watse. Yeah, its great and all that you harvested the head from a 14 point buck, but what did you do with the 150 pounds of meat? Pack that crap in a freezer in roast, chops, steaks, and ground meat form and you are set for a good long time. God I want some venison chili! And stew! And jerky! Traab "Love Machine" Fellhammer<
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Poachers exist as well and I wouldn't call them hunters. I remember those idiots slaughtering the wild horses just for sake of killing something; those aren’t hunters in my book, they’re criminals. I guess “trophy hunting� is legal so my examples suck, but it gets harder and harder to hunt every single year and it’s a sore subject to me. <
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My dad actually used to kill deer and leave them laying in the field(outside of hunting season), but that was for a specific purpose, and was legal. We owned a tree nursery at that point and they were destroying crops, frankly it's no different than a farmer killing them out of his field. After a couple nights of that they really didn't come back to the fields.<
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Bear liver is actually the only liver I will eat, the heart is very good as well. Around here the bear population is about 3x what it was 50 years ago. When my dad was younger the local hunters took up a collection and purchased bear to be stocked in our area. The local hunters have taken care of them and have carefully watched the population over the years and it's thriving now because of it. Often times we're more likely to shoot them with a camera than a gun. <
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I'd actually say a trophy "hunter" would most likely go after a Kodiak before a grizzly, but the only real difference in the 2 species is about 50 miles. Marauder Harabakc Goat<i></i>

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