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| Author: | kermodean [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:59 PM ] |
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<dreamy> OMG you guys...be nice to him. He's one of god's creatures...</dreamy> < > < > Somebody's been licking the ring pops again. Go shit rainbows somewhere else, Mary Starshine. raff can make an ass of himself all by his lonesome. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Syuni Dzpecyzczn [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:59 PM ] |
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AAAAAAAAAAA< > KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRAAAAAAAAA< > AAAAAAAAA!< > < > edited to fix scrolling -Tarot Syuni D'zpecyzczn< > a thousand lives across 65 levels<i>Edited by: TarotofLanys at: 12/16/05 11:56 pm< ></i> |
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| Author: | TheDukeOfNuke [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:02 PM ] |
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Quote:That sig is too tall and is a violation of the sig rules. Please ban yourself and if Plur uses it, ban him as well.< > < > Actually, it's not... It's only 177pixels tall, and the rules allow for 200.< > < > But I get your point though.< > < > Even though it's wrong.< > < > Which it is< > < > in case you were wondering< > < > which you weren't< > < > but I point it out anyway< > < > cause I can< > < > and I used no punctuation< > < > and will type 'your stupid'< > < > just to annoy you< > < > cause it is friday and I am way to bored. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Syuni Dzpecyzczn [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:05 PM ] |
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| Author: | hsraffety [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:12 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
The Flux Capacitor -- She's Blown! <i></i> |
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| Author: | warrior55 [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:27 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Words hurt so much more over the intarweb. < > < > < > Gnome - Dark Iron - Knight of Arcadia< > < > <i></i> |
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| Author: | Rosetta [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:36 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Because I'm nice /sigh< > < > looky what i found Plur< > < > what quake monster are you!!< > < > <i></i> |
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| Author: | jay m bear [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:54 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
And yet, the issue all along has been the use of HTML rather than EZCodes as a non-EZSupporter. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Vanamar [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:57 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
No, because botepidemic hasn't existed for years.
Vanamar<> Undead Warlock of Kargath< > Member of Flames of Retribution<i></i> |
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| Author: | Rosetta [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:09 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Jay is partly right though. He's using HTML on a non supporter account. That's why it's not just showing up as a little x <i></i> |
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| Author: | selras [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:27 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
I've seen a lot of these topics about 5 man obtainable epic items on the WoW boards lately. Thinking it through I've come to the conclusion it could be implemented correctly. There seems to be four types of players in WoW: raiders of end game content, PvP addicts, instance runners, and casual players. The casual players are those that don't play enough to warrent epic items any way you look at it. The other three groups all might put in equal playtime in a week yet it's the instance runners that are getting shafted. < > < > I think most would agree large raiding guilds deserve the best equipment. Raiding takes the most preporation and organization, and people to "slay the beast". WoW has already implemented a way for non raiders to gain comparable equipment. The PvP rewards are nothing to scoff at, and for PvP are almost as good as the top raiding equipment. That takes care of two of our three groups of people putting in near equal time. If a system could be designed to give "hardcore" instance and quest runners comparable equipment that would take close to the same amount of invested time, then I really don't see a problem. Like all jobs, it's about time invested and reward. If it takes 100 hours of play time to get a full armor set of purple, whether you are fighting 40 man raid bosses, or doing 5 man instances 100 times, the result should be similar.< > < > my 2cp <i></i> |
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| Author: | PlurLanys [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:27 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
rofl yes! butting into threads has finally been useful for me!!! <a href="http://www.botepidemic.com/frikbot/q1mons/"><img src="http://www.botepidemic.com/frikbot/q1mons/enforcer.jpg" border=0 alt="I'm An Enforcer! Take the 'What Quake monster am I?' test!"></a><i></i> |
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| Author: | Abysmul [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:59 PM ] |
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Neesha said "short bus"!< > < > /gasp< > < > <i></i> |
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| Author: | DarkOmen42 [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:07 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
God, fix the horizontal shit. Marauder Harabakc Goat<i></i> |
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| Author: | some merchant [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:06 PM ] |
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Glad I'm not the only one having vivid util flashbacks. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Mandalorianaz [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:42 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
People still play WoW? <i></i> |
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| Author: | dobbanz [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:49 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
The problem with that sel, is that I personally just dont see how any 5-10 man instance could ever REALLY be as hard as a 40 man instance. I mean, dire maul was tough in the beginning but even then it was nothing like mc, it was doable from the start with a pickup group. Im sure there will eventually be 5-10 man content with epic loot in it, but it will always lag behind raid gear. For example, when the expansion comes out, id expect to see teir 1 epic level gear dropping from the 10 man instances, but the raiders would be moving onto teir 3-4. The gap would still be there, and be obvious, so the whining wouldnt stop. Traab "Love Machine" Fellhammer< > Human Mob Compactor of the 52nd Cycle< > And Almost Too Sexy To Live!<i></i> |
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| Author: | Darwinian Seafarer [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:00 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
lolz, someone said cunt, that's super offensive and he's obviously an idiot ehehehehehehe.< > < > The least you could do is attack the guy over his political views, like I do. Using the word CUNT is hardly something to flip out about.< > < > I would just like to say that you're all a bunch of fucking cunts.< > < > --Dar < >DARWINAIN: E1V1M1 Since June 2003<i></i> |
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| Author: | Venen [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:32 PM ] |
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Nekrotic asked a legitimate question to which he recieves a reply - < > < > Quote:Learn2Read< > < > I'll put it in Lanysian:< > < > < > Quote:Thanks for being a fuckhead and shitting up my thread though. Very intuitive and insightful thoughts you have provided in my thread. Please, post again. < > < > Quote:Yeah, except your comprehension skills can't seem to discern < > < > Quote:Leave me the fuck alone and stay out of my threads. < > < > Waahhhh!< > < > And then an even more legit question by Fiercely - < > < > Quote:uh, why not debate the topic on the thread you posted originally? That's what that link referenced right? Just a thought... < > < > Response - < > < > Quote:Fiercely are you really that fucking retarded?< > < > Is there really any question as to why he got flamed in the first place? He has a history of provocation, get with the program folks. < > < > Quote:Rosetta you're a cunt. < > < > Was only the icing on the cake. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Xantheus Diabolus [ Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:40 PM ] |
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Just ban this idiot and get it over with. <b>Xantheus Diabolus</b><i></i> |
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| Author: | Mirramai [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:13 AM ] |
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/sigh< > < > After that, I need a hug. <i></i> |
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| Author: | dobbanz [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:08 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Out of curiosity, does anyone agree with my post? Or disagree? I mean, maybe im looking at it the wrong way when I say there can never be 5-10 man instances with equivalent difficulty and gear to 40 man content, im just curious to see if anyone disagrees and why. At least here I can sometimes get people to actually COUNTER an argument. On the blizzard board my post would just be answered by a copy paste of the post I tried to argue against. Traab "Love Machine" Fellhammer< > Human Mob Compactor of the 52nd Cycle< > And Almost Too Sexy To Live!<i></i> |
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| Author: | Syuni Dzpecyzczn [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:45 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
As someone who has not done a more-than-5-man instance, I cannot intelligently argue this point with you.< > < > So, here's a picture. Syuni D'zpecyzczn< > a thousand lives across 65 levels<i></i> |
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| Author: | jay m bear [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:59 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Well, in EQ you could run those instances over and over to get points for gear that was comperable to high end raid zone gear. So, sure, if you are willing to run an adventure 100 times to earn points for stuff, it can work.< > < > And, Syuni - how did I know that it would its way from the Sanctum boards to here? LOLLERSKATES <i></i> |
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| Author: | dobbanz [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:25 PM ] |
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I didnt play ldon jay so forgive me for asking a dumb question but, was the gear you could get there equivalent to the end game raiding gear of the time? Or was it a couple teirs below it, while still being an upgrade to what was previously available? Traab "Love Machine" Fellhammer< > Human Mob Compactor of the 52nd Cycle< > And Almost Too Sexy To Live!<i></i> |
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| Author: | Orme the Singing Bard [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:49 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Quote:You're not gonna win. Somewhere along the line it became cool to jump your shit and now everyone feels confident that if they also jump your shit that they will be cool.I believe this started around the time Neesha and CC both flamed him. When I decided he was in need of a flame, it become official:< > < > Flaming hsraffety became cool.< > < > Lol... I know writing that makes me an interminable faggot, but it amuses me, and that's what life is all about.< > < > Plus, the spastic bolding of his retorts make for keen entertainment. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Orme the Singing Bard [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:52 PM ] |
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Wow... this thread is getting nuts.< > < > Quote:Sanae you're wearing a full suit of Felheart. I think that makes you automatically not casualWho is more casual? Someone with 3 level 60s in gimp gear or 1 pimp 60? I personally hate alts. It was always a major frustration for me when running a guild.< > < > I started playing WoW and EQ later than most of my friends and I quickly passed them because I only played one character while they had a gabillion alts. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Orme the Singing Bard [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:55 PM ] |
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I''m going post apeshit here... < > < > Dolalin was a different level than Ultradir and this clown.< > His outbursts were a tad more intellectual. < > < > Saying "cunt" because it's "super-bad" is weak < > <i></i> |
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| Author: | Orme the Singing Bard [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:57 PM ] |
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PlurLanys wrote:Quote:don't shit in a perfectly good thread. he's not the one that started the fight in this thread, so don't take any high and mighty position just because you don't like the insults that result from it. we need more moderators if threads can be so easily shitted on. just because it's rant and raves doesn't mean this kind of behavior should exist in every thread Hi, you're ghey. - and not the fun loving, good style, enjoys anal sex type of gay.< > < > I mean the really bad, stupid sorta ghey. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Orme the Singing Bard [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:58 PM ] |
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Quote:Tarot, maybe instead of provoking an argument you should instead be trying to.. I don't know, not? What's the point in bandwagon'ing when you're the only one that has the ability to actually promote what the original discussion was about? Heh. Wow - you're still ghey.< > < > And I'm getting killer post count. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Orme the Singing Bard [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:01 PM ] |
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Wow... I need to read the entire thread next time before posting.< > < > It seems there has been a happy conclusion and all I did was inject anger.< > < > I have no point.< > < > PostCount++ <i></i> |
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| Author: | DarkOmen42 [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:08 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
There was some ldon gear that was roughly equal to elemental gear. Marauder Harabakc Goat<i></i> |
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| Author: | jay m bear [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:08 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
If I remember correctly, and it has been a while, the base gear was below the level of Plane of Time gear, but on par with gear from the lower tiers of Planes of Power. It was also slotted, and you could customize it with add-ons that you could purchase with additional instance run points. So one person could add on a ton of HPs, another could add HPs and Mana, or possible haste, or underwater eathing, or stamina, etc. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Givin Wetwillies01 [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:59 PM ] |
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Number of max level characters hardly goes to tell anybody if you are casual or hardcore.< > < > Even the most stupid and unskilled of people can get a character to 60 in World of Warcraft and repeat the process over and over as much as desired. The game is far from new now.< > < > And with so much shit to work on for one character to consider it maxed out, multiple 60s are a waste of time anyway. Casual and Hardcore alike, since they put in a bullshit faction for every little fart in the game, nobody would want to go through the horseshit more than once. < > <i></i> |
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| Author: | PlurLanys [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:07 PM ] |
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Having fun, Orme? It's okay, though, because you are the prime example of what I was talking about. <a href="http://www.botepidemic.com/frikbot/q1mons/"><img src="http://www.botepidemic.com/frikbot/q1mons/enforcer.jpg" border=0 alt="I'm An Enforcer! Take the 'What Quake monster am I?' test!"></a><i></i> |
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| Author: | Venen [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:15 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Quote:Even the most stupid and unskilled of people can get a character to 60 in World of Warcraft and repeat the process over and over as much as desired. The game is far from new now.< > < > /QFT< > < > In the time it takes to max out a character somewhat, you could make around 5-6 level 60 characters or more. <i></i> |
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| Author: | TheDukeOfNuke [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:08 PM ] |
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I am the master of the clits. Remember this fucking face. Whenever you see clit, you'll see this fucking face. I make that shit work. It does whatever the fuck I tell it to. No one rules the clit like me. Not this little fuck, none of you little fucks out there. I AM THE CLIT COMMANDER! Remember that, commander of all clits! When it comes down to business, this is what I do. I pinch it like this. OOH you little fuck. Then I rub my nose with it. <i></i> |
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| Author: | hsraffety [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:11 PM ] |
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lol, Jay and Silent Bob ftw. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Fribur [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:58 PM ] |
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< > wtf six consecutive posts??????< > < > < > < > < > <i></i> |
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| Author: | DarkOmen42 [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:38 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
That's what happens when you post as you go through the thread without completing it. Marauder Harabakc Goat<i></i> |
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| Author: | Orme the Singing Bard [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:02 AM ] |
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I'm ashamed, but entertained at the same time.< > < > < > PLEASE BAN ME. ONLY NOW DO I UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN'T CONTROL MY MESSAGE BOARD ADDICTION. I AM OFFICIALLY ASKING THE MODS TO BAN ME TO PROTECT ME FROM MYSELF. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Orme the Singing Bard [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:04 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Quote:Having fun, Orme? It's okay, though, because you are the prime example of what I was talking about. Yes, I am having fun.< > < > And yes, you are ghey. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Jateki [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:03 AM ] |
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Quote:PLEASE BAN ME. ONLY NOW DO I UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN'T CONTROL MY MESSAGE BOARD ADDICTION. I AM OFFICIALLY ASKING THE MODS TO BAN ME TO PROTECT ME FROM MYSELF.< > <i></i> |
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| Author: | selras [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:36 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rant: The Casual Vs. Hardcore Argument |
Let the 5 man instance runners get epic gear. It should be close but not quite as good as the raid epic gear, and maybe more designed for those running instances. Notice Blizzard has already set up three talent trees. Most people in a raid guild have to choose a certain tree (priest:holy, druid:restoration, warrior:defensive etc etc), same with someone devoted to pvp (priest:shadow, druid alance, warrior:arms). Of course this isn't a steadfast rule, but most follow it. Wouldn't it be nice if the epic gear that came from quests in 5 man instances benifited that third talent tree. That third tree often compliments instance running (priest:dicipline, druid:feral, warrior:fury). That's how I would design the talent trees. They seem to be set up close to that as it is, maybe just a few modifications. < > < > As for epic drops in 5-mans; It can't be a drop, that is just too easy. But it can't be as rare as the .8% epic drops from the current 5-man dungeons, that is just too rare. Some kind of quest should suffice. A collect quest, say collect 50, and on average 5 drop in an instance, you would have to run it 10 times to get one piece of epic armor. 10 times at maybe 2 hours each, and say it has to actually be beat 10 times so maybe a secondary collect 10 from the end boss; that's 20 hours of work for one epic item and who knows how many green, blue, and cash items. There are 8 slots for a complete armor set, maybe have some of the quests overlap and you could get to somewhere around 100 hours of invested time to a completed epic set.< > < > This seems completely reasonable, and could facilitate people that want to run instances. Maybe have the instances set up in parts like SM, so you might need a few epic items from questing the previous parts to be able to kill the end boss in the last part of the instance to get the chest, leg and helm pieces. The instances and bosses have to be hard. Hard enough that anyone would fail the bosses the first time if they didn't know what was going to happen, like in a raid instance. <i></i> |
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| Author: | Xantheus Diabolus [ Fri May 13, 2011 8:55 PM ] |
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Haha, more hilarity! |
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